Harbringers Useless Since Divine/Exalted Swap

Anyone else hate how Harbringers together with Harbringer chests (Heist, Expedition logbooks etc.) are pretty much useless since they decided to make that artificial Divine-Exalted swap?

Exalted orbs have shards while Divine orbs don't. Like what are you gonna run Harbringers for? For the 0.000001% chance of a mirror shard? Or maybe for those juice Chaos orb shards?

Rare 6-link drops also pretty much lost all of their value because of the swap. The least they could do was grant an Exalted orb on vendoring instead of 20 fusing - that would be on par with the Divine orb value before the swap.

Before someone mentions that orbs are not for trade - they absolutely are since the game is heavily focused around trade and economy. Not only PoE is labeled as a trading ARPG, but they constantly put huge effort to balance out everything that would break the economy.

/vent

Probably fracturing orbs/shards but I don't dabble in harbinger anyways. Agree on the 6L thing wish the reward was better went from divine to 20 fusings :X

Harbinger is pretty decent currency-wise atm. Fracturing shards, exalts, annuls and ancient orbs tend to keep their value and rise slowly during the league. Harbinger is also quite good for feeding delirium. Currently, it's probably one of the top3 league mechanics for juicing imo, right after deli and beyond.

The only "negative" about the current state of harbinger is that you need a different mechanic if you were used to farming ex shards and had no other way to generate exalts (now divines) but there are so many alternatives for divines especially with cards that it shouldn't be an issue.

these things have value...but they are quite rare

Every time I see someone post currency returns from harbinger it's either worse than regular mapping or they had extreme highrolls like a mirror shard or full fracturing orb drop in a small data set.

I get about 0.7 fracturing shards per map on my current strategy, in addition to all the exalts, ancient orbs and annuls. Even though I haven't found a mirror shard, a divine altar or a raw fracturing orb, it's one of the good ways to farm currency atm, you probably just don't invest in maps. I have every single harbinger and quantity node on the tree, using harbinger sextants and gilded harbinger scarabs along with eater altars (picking quant whenever possible). A well rolled map will almost always net you at least 2 fracturing shards. Most of my gear is made through harbingers and vaal temple farming, you can check it out

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Lyutsifer665 wrote:

these things have value...but they are quite rare

not if you go all in on harbingers. they're only rare if you just alc and go. I have found more than 40 shards in a few hours of mapping

Harbinger before the ex/div swap? VERY good.
Harbinger after the ex/div swap? Good.

Harbinger used to be a very good source of "steady economical progression", as exalted shards were pretty common - and worth a decent amount. Now, there are larger spikes, but when you first get a good drop, it's worth more (fracturing shards).

If you're fully spec'd into Harbinger, I think it's more or less just as rewarding as before, but it may feel worse short term because of the spikes.

Harbringer has the same issue that most league mechanics have at this point after their "reworks". If you want to get any visibile payoff out of them you have to go full throttle on the passive tree AND juice the hell out of it with sextants and scarabs. With just alch and go your average payout will be round about zero.

They are called Harbingers, and they're not useless.

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auspexa wrote:

not if you go all in on harbingers. they're only rare if you just alc and go. I have found more than 40 shards in a few hours of mapping

i have all the nodes on the tree and get harbingers in almost all my maps. sometimes multiple harbingers but they never drop any for me. i guess using sextants is mandatory now? thats the only thing i'm not doing.