[3.25] ❄️ Icicle Mines Deadeye ❄️ Cheap / League Starter / Fast Mapper / 1st Day T16

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99prosorc#1700 wrote:

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Vortigaunt1337#7433 wrote:

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99prosorc#1700 wrote:

I will start as Shadow -> Surfcaster (1st lab = 30% move speed) and probably respec to Blind Prophet after merc lab or uber lab.

could you provide a preliminary for pob this sir?

The tree / gear will be "identical" again. You just start at Shadow.
I will take Surfcaster for 30% movement speed first and switch to Blind Prophet very early (probably around the start of red maps).
Blind Prophet ascendancy nodes: -> "Nimis" -> +2 -> 5% life/mana

So basically we will be playing with 3 asc points since the crit node does nothing for us?

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Tengrii_#2452 wrote:

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99prosorc#1700 wrote:

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Vortigaunt1337#7433 wrote:

could you provide a preliminary for pob this sir?

The tree / gear will be "identical" again. You just start at Shadow.
I will take Surfcaster for 30% movement speed first and switch to Blind Prophet very early (probably around the start of red maps).
Blind Prophet ascendancy nodes: -> "Nimis" -> +2 -> 5% life/mana

So basically we will be playing with 3 asc points since the crit node does nothing for us?

Depends if Sightless would work with Sandstorm Visage, because if it does, it would have potential imo (very high chance it doesn't but I will try that out in game just in case). Losing 30/60% damage as extra obviously sucks, but after PoBing Sandstorm in the 15 div budget version i found out that you can remove 500% increased crit chance from the build, disable Assassin's Mark and still be crit capped. What that means is you potentially could save a few passive points to add 2 cluster jewels or use something like Dying Sun. From what I can tell after messing around for a few minutes, the setup basically matches the DPS with Heatshiver if the target was frozen so I could see it working out.

You guys need to remember that:

- you need around 100% projectile speed for projectiles from icicle mine to return? Not sure if remember correctly.

I never played as Shadow, which skill to use for leveling before Poisonous Concoction?

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Hornsent#1110 wrote:

I never played as Shadow, which skill to use for leveling before Poisonous Concoction?

You can either run caustic arrow or any trap ya can get your hands on

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decapitatin#3963 wrote:

You can either run caustic arrow or any trap ya can get your hands on

So same as Ranger but need to buy Caustic and later Poisonous Conc because it is not a quest reward for Shadow?

I'm actually concerned about the reduced light radius - the typical nimis visual clutter combined with no light radius is bound to be terrifying to play with, methinks - esp in t17

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Cirem#0542 wrote:

I'm actually concerned about the reduced light radius - the typical nimis visual clutter combined with no light radius is bound to be terrifying to play with, methinks - esp in t17

I'm already used to it because of Rathpith :D

What do you think about explode node instead of +2 from blind prophet? They changed the node (missinformation about cursed corpses, so right now its about cursed monsters). Just frostbite on ring, and we got explode + blind. Kinda offensive + defensive node just for clear speed I guess. For bosses with return pro. +2 is better. (and we cant scale 5% phys dmg explode)

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szybciorek1144#0536 wrote:

What do you think about explode node instead of +2 from blind prophet? They changed the node (missinformation about cursed corpses, so right now its about cursed monsters). Just frostbite on ring, and we got explode + blind. Kinda offensive + defensive node just for clear speed I guess. For bosses with return pro. +2 is better. (and we cant scale 5% phys dmg explode)

By no means an expert, but I think the blind is kinda nice although the clear is already so good, there is not so much benefit of exploding monsters, compared to the more dmg from +2 proj I guess.