[3.25] Ice Dancing Queen - Icestorm/Cyclone/CI - Viable For Everything

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Chridian wrote:

Heyoh everyone.
I'm a little bit out of the loop, but I've tried to keep tabs on Kelvyn's builds and this caught my eye, I skimmed through a conversation some days ago regarding stun immunity, did you figure out if the flask is enough to keep you from getting stunned or did you have to do something else?

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WinterHiko wrote:

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MasterLuminosity wrote:

First time playing Whispering Ice, so I could be missing something, but I'm surprised no one is talking about Shavronne's Revelation. 2c ring with a maxroll 75 int, massive 250 flat ES, 40 mp/s means you can basically straight up drop Clarity, and it pretty much doesn't have a downside since we run Ghostreaver and have no meaningful ES regen. Hell you could hit a 6% int corruption probably much cheaper than the multiple divines a synth base costs rn.

That looks like a great idea! Nice find!

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WinterHiko wrote:

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Chridian wrote:

Heyoh everyone.
I'm a little bit out of the loop, but I've tried to keep tabs on Kelvyn's builds and this caught my eye, I skimmed through a conversation some days ago regarding stun immunity, did you figure out if the flask is enough to keep you from getting stunned or did you have to do something else?

Personnally, I leveled up to juiced T16s with no form of stun avoidance or mitigation whatsoever (except the recovery from Stampede) and I really didn't need it. Only times I noticed a problem was in fringe cases like a pack of spikey ladies from Eater influence with +5 projectile from an altar. I didn't even pick the "stun threshold from ES" mastery.

Haven't bossed much yet though.

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WinterHiko wrote:

Tell me that wasn't a 100C ring with a 4% implicit.

TELL ME THAT'S NOT WHY THE PERSON I MESSAGED A FEW MINUTES AGO AFTER CAREFUL CONSIDERATION DIDN'T ANSWER

Congratz, my live search continues haha.

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Oldern365 wrote:

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WinterHiko wrote:

Tell me that wasn't a 100C ring with a 4% implicit.

TELL ME THAT'S NOT WHY THE PERSON I MESSAGED A FEW MINUTES AGO AFTER CAREFUL CONSIDERATION DIDN'T ANSWER

Congratz, my live search continues haha.

Yep it was that one :D

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MasterLuminosity wrote:

First time playing Whispering Ice, so I could be missing something, but I'm surprised no one is talking about Shavronne's Revelation. 2c ring with a maxroll 75 int, massive 250 flat ES, 40 mp/s means you can basically straight up drop Clarity, and it pretty much doesn't have a downside since we run Ghostreaver and have no meaningful ES regen. Hell you could hit a 6% int corruption probably much cheaper than the multiple divines a synth base costs rn.

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WinterHiko wrote:

Here's a few elements :

You've got a random +10 Strength node that breaks your pathing on the right of the tree. Unallocating it is massive (instant 5k hit).

Try to fit in Hatred/Enlighten. That's a massive amount of damage (25% more for me). Enlighten + the reservation mastery nodes on the left of the tree + Charisma annoint on boots whould do the trick.

Keep Elemental Proliferation on the Cyclone staff. It really makes a big difference on the freeze rate of enemies, which in turn reduces damage taken massively.

Change the Granite flasks for Evasion flasks. It's going to scale better since we're not running any armor and armor gets better as it stacks.

You can probably unallocate the Dreamer nodes now that your Clarity is high enough.

The Safeguard nodes should also make a big difference. Plus, pathing through those nodes will make the Split Personnalities be farther from the start.


All in all, though, you seem to have similar defenses to mine, though about 20% less DPS. I'm a bit stumped, because I'm wading through enemies easily without dying at all. Are you moving at full speed through enemy packs while Cycloning? You can go through, then back again, always moving at full speed and you should dodge a lot of the hits that way. You do have 3000 evasion (10% chance) less than me (10k/24% with flasks), so maybe that plus the 8% block and 12% spell block chance is what makes the difference.

Hope that helps!

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spaceace7373 wrote:

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MasterLuminosity wrote:

First time playing Whispering Ice, so I could be missing something, but I'm surprised no one is talking about Shavronne's Revelation. 2c ring with a maxroll 75 int, massive 250 flat ES, 40 mp/s means you can basically straight up drop Clarity, and it pretty much doesn't have a downside since we run Ghostreaver and have no meaningful ES regen. Hell you could hit a 6% int corruption probably much cheaper than the multiple divines a synth base costs rn.

nice one. i just tried the one i had in my uniques tab and went from 9502 es to 11192. very nice upgrade. now to fix my res that is now at 55/52/0... ouch lol

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Ghost285 wrote:

Thanks a lot, friend, i'll think about your advices!
So, you drop purity of elements and choose hatred? My resists are now very poor and idk how to get them higher :D