[3.25] Ice Dancing Queen - Icestorm/Cyclone/CI - Viable For Everything

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BearODactyl88 wrote:
Hello just made some changes and boosted things a ton, how would I know when I can do uber things like elder? I have just under 7k ES and just under 2k int, where would more big es boosts come from? I'm about to encxhant the inc attributes on my chest.

I don't make alot of currency. Thanks!


I think your chest could be better - maybe more ES up to around 300+ would be great. That will give you a huge boost to total ES.

Also, you could try and get the % increased intelligence amulet. That gives a lot of ES too.
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NoobCaeks wrote:


Decided to try my luck on a second amulet, hoping to get +intelligence or +all attributes.

Given the current state of the amulet, how should I proceed? Is the ideal way to block an unwanted craft w/ craft bench, then slam exalts and pray?


I think there is nothing you can do with this amulet.

If you really want an %int + %att + % inc damage per int, the best way to craft is:

int% ammy + %att ammy + awakened orb;
Preffered base is Turquoise, coz you need the dex for Awakened cold pen;

If you hit a free preffix:
Craft Suffix cannot be changed, and scour the item.

From here are 2 ways to proceed:
• Exalt slan > Exalt slan > Craft Suffix cannot be changed, and scour the item if not hit desired mod. Repeat until hit or waste all currency.
• Craft Suffix cannot be changed then Harvest craft : Reforge item including a influence modifier (this method can brick your item by filling the prefix and suffix).

The tip i give you is to buy or craft a simple amulet, without influence like the follow exemples:


Amulets like this are enought to do any game content and are way cheaper!
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BearODactyl88 wrote:
Hello just made some changes and boosted things a ton, how would I know when I can do uber things like elder? I have just under 7k ES and just under 2k int, where would more big es boosts come from? I'm about to encxhant the inc attributes on my chest.
I don't make alot of currency. Thanks!


"Uber" things need abit of investment and dedication to be able to do, but regular Pinnacle bosses like Maven / Shaper / Elder / Elder in Shaper Realm and Sirius you can do with about 1300 INT and 6K ES if you learn the bosses mechanics.

Follow videos blow show how to do they with low investment and get the Voidstones.

- Maven > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEraZjbv_9s;
- Elder in Shaper Realm > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqmpQ6LSVNo;
- Exarch > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJTnhyoN0sI;
- Eater > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXB3VQMW0ro;
- Sirius > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSCjFkNBZNM

Videos are from 3.20, but itens and tree still almost the same.
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Lintwurm wrote:
Hello, I did the Whispers of Doom annointment swap with lv 4 enlighten and realized that I ended up with too much mana (~200) so I gave lv3 enlighten a try which reduced me to 94 mana.
With a Watcher's Eye for mana recoup and two -7 manacost rings it seems perfectly fine. Immortal Call activates without any issues in both aoe and singletarget setups so that's (currently) 11-12 div shaved off the upgrade.

That looks risky. In some intense fights you need mana to constantly cast Icestorm, Frostblink on cooldown, pop Vortex often - all the while triggering CWDT every few seconds. 200 mana is perfect. With 94 mana you should be finding yourself out of mana quite often.

Also, crafting mana recoup on a ring would let you get something nicer on the Watcher's Eye, like Clarity Mana as ES.

There are multiple good options how it all can work together. I guess you just have to choose what works the best for your particular situation.
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whiterockxx wrote:
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BearODactyl88 wrote:
Hello just made some changes and boosted things a ton, how would I know when I can do uber things like elder? I have just under 7k ES and just under 2k int, where would more big es boosts come from? I'm about to encxhant the inc attributes on my chest.
I don't make alot of currency. Thanks!


"Uber" things need abit of investment and dedication to be able to do, but regular Pinnacle bosses like Maven / Shaper / Elder / Elder in Shaper Realm and Sirius you can do with about 1300 INT and 6K ES if you learn the bosses mechanics.

Follow videos blow show how to do they with low investment and get the Voidstones.

- Maven > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEraZjbv_9s;
- Elder in Shaper Realm > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqmpQ6LSVNo;
- Exarch > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJTnhyoN0sI;
- Eater > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXB3VQMW0ro;
- Sirius > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSCjFkNBZNM

Videos are from 3.20, but itens and tree still almost the same.


Hello ty very much and to the other person who replied! I have done elder and shaper before, I thought the elder and shaper together was the uber elder, lol. I tried sirus once last season but died due to not knowing the mechanic. I will check those out
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BearODactyl88 wrote:

Hello ty very much and to the other person who replied! I have done elder and shaper before, I thought the elder and shaper together was the uber elder, lol. I tried sirus once last season but died due to not knowing the mechanic. I will check those out


That is the Über Elder. Thing is that encounter was made long ago, and when they introduced new harder versions of pinnacle bosses, they just called them über versions. So über version of Über Elder is called Über Über Elder.
Last edited by Cjin on Sep 14, 2023, 6:17:18 PM
I can't recommend this build enough. The guide is as thorough as it gets and you can tell a lot of thought and care was put in to it.

Thank you for the voodoo that you do, oh so well.
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Cjin wrote:
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BearODactyl88 wrote:

Hello ty very much and to the other person who replied! I have done elder and shaper before, I thought the elder and shaper together was the uber elder, lol. I tried sirus once last season but died due to not knowing the mechanic. I will check those out


That is the Über Elder. Thing is that encounter was made long ago, and when they introduced new harder versions of pinnacle bosses, they just called them über versions. So über version of Über Elder is called Über Über Elder.


oh i see, so the atlas skill that increases their power is uber uber?
Is the elemental damage enchant per quality on weapon still the way to go or do we go with Increased Critical Strike chance now that the build is more crit oriented?
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Is the elemental damage enchant per quality on weapon still the way to go or do we go with Increased Critical Strike chance now that the build is more crit oriented?


Based on POB, that Harvest mod only impacts the base critical chance (6.1% -> 6.53%) of the weapon. It doesn't impact the critical chance (base is 6%) of the Icestorm skill.

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