CPU UPGRADE POE DOWNGRADE... Another CPU Latency issue

G'day Exiles,

Starting to think the POE engine cannot handle multicore CPUs...

OLD system

- 5600x (240mm AIO)
- 3080 (Driver 31.0.15.1659)
- X570 AORUS MASTER rev 1.2 (Bios version unknown probably 2 years old, who
even updates their Bios)
- 32gig ram
- 1TB NVME
- 6 fans

100% deli maps = Buttery smooth, nil issues at all. I have ran over 300 deli maps this league pushing as much juice as possible X4 gilded scarabs X4 sextant T16 C-temple


As you can tell my PC is literal trash and needed an upgrade.. (I gave my missus the 5600x as her CPU was about 6 years old and was bottle necking in POE on her i5 with a 3070)

New system

- 5800x3d (240mm AIO)
- 3080 (Driver 31.0.15.1659)
- X570 AORUS MASTER rev 1.2 (Bios version F36e 12/05/2022)
- 32gig ram
- 1TB NVME
- 6 fans

100% deli maps = Hot garbage 90+ CPU ms - FPS drops to 18 and probably lower


Short list of things I've tried

- Full reformat of both NVME drives
- New install of windows
- Updated AMD chipset driver (4.06.10.651)
- Tried both supported 5800x3d BIO drivers F36d and F36e
- Reapplied CPU thermal paste twice both applications were mint
- Widows is updated 10.0.19.044
- Followed the Path of Exile - Increase FPS & Performance tips
- Tried restricting 2 of the cores in task manager affinity
- I've even tried random ass stuff from reddit...
- Dx11 and Dx12 are pretty much the same
- I have every setting it POE set to potato mode
- Yes my loot filter is spastic strict and yes the hide filtered ground items is set

I have invested way too many hours into this problem which in-likely hood it's the game engine that cannot handle the chip?

Please for the love of god someone point something out that I have missed as it's a complete joke that this PC cannot run this game with out having to set every hidden setting to = potato.



UPDATE

Few weeks on and nil improvement to my situation.

- I've tried all the directX options and Vulken non improved the heavy CPU Ms.
- I've reformatted the computer again and redid all the drivers again.
- Temps are 68-74 on the CPU during full load so were not thermal throttling.
- Other games appear not to be effected (APEX, LoL and Diablo III)

I'm actually at a loss and probably won't be playing next league due to this BS.

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Sakadi wrote:

G'day Exiles,

Starting to think the POE engine cannot handle multicore CPUs...

OLD system

- 5600x (240mm AIO)
- 3080 (Driver 31.0.15.1659)
- X570 AORUS MASTER rev 1.2 (Bios version unknown probably 2 years old, who
even updates their Bios)
- 32gig ram
- 1TB NVME
- 6 fans

100% deli maps = Buttery smooth, nil issues at all. I have ran over 300 deli maps this league pushing as much juice as possible X4 gilded scarabs X4 sextant T16 C-temple


As you can tell my PC is literal trash and needed an upgrade.. (I gave my missus the 5600x as her CPU was about 6 years old and was bottle necking in POE on her i5 with a 3070)

New system

- 5800x3d (240mm AIO)
- 3080 (Driver 31.0.15.1659)
- X570 AORUS MASTER rev 1.2 (Bios version F36e 12/05/2022)
- 32gig ram
- 1TB NVME
- 6 fans

100% deli maps = Hot garbage 90+ CPU ms - FPS drops to 18 and probably lower


Short list of things I've tried

- Full reformat of both NVME drives
- New install of windows
- Updated AMD chipset driver (4.06.10.651)
- Tried both supported 5800x3d BIO drivers F36d and F36e
- Reapplied CPU thermal paste twice both applications were mint
- Widows is updated 10.0.19.044
- Followed the Path of Exile - Increase FPS & Performance tips
- Tried restricting 2 of the cores in task manager affinity
- I've even tried random ass stuff from reddit...
- Dx11 and Dx12 are pretty much the same
- I have every setting it POE set to potato mode
- Yes my loot filter is spastic strict and yes the hide filtered ground items is set

I have invest way too many hours into this problem which in-likely hood it's the game engine that cannot handle the chip?

Please for the love of god someone point something out that I have missed as it's a complete joke that this PC cannot run this game with out having to set every hidden setting to = potato.

what about Vulcan ? Or disable Engine multithreading ?

I tried Vulcan but kept getting that stupid bug where the game wont load during your next play session.

Aka.. Try to load people, black screen 3.2.1 desk top, only fix is to delete all the cache and shader folders, then use the steam scan to re-download 2g worth of files, which isn't acceptable.. Additionally it made no change to the CPU MS issues.

I will report back about disabling multi threading but I doubt that will improve 100% deli maps.

What HELPED me, is program "BES – Battle Encoder Shirasé". Press "Target", choose PathofExile.exe, press "limit this", press "yes". Then "Control", top scroller to most left position (-1%), then "Awake once in every" type "2".
This "hack" does not cure my CPU latency completely, but freezes kinda dissapears. At least i can play (thats not for sure))

Hope it will help u!

Thanks for the suggestion, I will look into it tomorrow.

It's just baffling to me that a $5000 system cannot run this game...

I've been researching heaps and it would appear anyone with a CPU that has more than 6 cores is having issues.

5600x is a 6core CPU
5800x and 5800x3D are 8core CPUs

This further leads me to believe it's the game engine which is unable to use the extra cores and is causing some sort of a conflicting in the code.

I'm fairly competent when it comes to computers blah blah but I'm not too savvy on encoding ect ect...

Have a look at what your cpu clocks are doing under load. I have a 5800X3D and it was stuck at base clocks until I updated the bios. You are using the latest bios so it should be properly supported but who knows.

its almost certainly something to do with multithreading judging by how many problems they had with it

Is your BIOS up-to-date?

Edit: Update Windows. OS Builds < 20000 are NOT supported.

Current version installed is Version 21H2 (OS Build .19044.1826)

When using the windows update tool it says everything is up to date, looking at the windows website that is the most latest version.

Windows 10 OS build numbers are 10****
Windows 11 OS build numbers are 20****

I run Win10 as Win11 isn't stable from my understanding and will need more time to mature, although correct me if I'm mistaken.

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Sakadi wrote:

I run Win10 as Win11 isn't stable from my understanding and will need more time to mature, although correct me if I'm mistaken.

I am using Windows 11 and it is working well. No reason not to upgrade :)