🌬️⛵☁️[3.25] The dirty Scorpion-tail|Chaos-Necromancy|Herald of Agony CI-Arachnophobia Allstars|600M+

Hi,

Question, I have an arakaali and I can prob sell my current build so I can spare a little bit of currency around 3-5 divs.

In 3.20 how is the build with sanctums since we should avoid being hit. Also how much would be to start it and get to around t14 comfortably?
Last edited by Gilron#2538 on Dec 18, 2022, 9:26:30 PM


Hey @Chromino, thanks for the previous tips they were helpful,

Iam currently at Teir 12-14 Maps, have about 80% Phys damage reduction, 52% Attackblock, 42% Spellblock (With Offering) and 4.2K Energy shield, 60% ailments avoidance, damage is acceptable but struggling with buffed bosses.

Cannot use Grace beacuse aul's price is very high 12 DIVS!!!

iam trying to save for Aegis but been unlucky with drops.

My problem that i die alot while mapping T12-14 and instantly.

Could please check my gear for any major mistakes and what to prioritize upgrading now for reaching T16

Thanks in advance.
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Gilron wrote:
Hi,

Question, I have an arakaali and I can prob sell my current build so I can spare a little bit of currency around 3-5 divs.

In 3.20 how is the build with sanctums since we should avoid being hit. Also how much would be to start it and get to around t14 comfortably?


Hi Gilron!

Overall the build fits extreme nice into sanctums - you can automatical trigger enough damage with stormbrand, void sphere, tempest shield and the HoA+spiders attack wide ranged. But the build stacks ordinary global defences, so you have to balance some capacities into movementskills (flamedash, movementspeed, etc.) when you focus on the sanctum-league-mechanic. Added Wither-Spell totems or skeletons added in are great against the sanctum-fireball traps etc. And try out to take in "convocation" for more speedy HoA-AI in small angled dungeons. :-)

Today the current tradingprices for the build are around:

10 days after league start 3.20 Sanctum, 2nd cheapest price, only-online-trades


Low budget mandatory gear, ready for t15-16 + ready for all Pinnacle-bosses + tanky infinitive ehp: 5-15M Pinnacle-boss-damage

1) Eber's unification + HoA-helmet-enchant 1 div
2) Aegis aurora shield 2 div
3) Skin of the Lords body-armour, neutral keystone, 5 correct colours 30 chaos
4) Arakaali dagger 30 chaos
5) Ring Circle of Nostalgia, HoA 35% efficiencies, HoA buff effect 3 chaos
6) Rainbow stride boots, high spellblock-roll: 1 chaos

Mandatory jewels

7) Golden rule jewel 1 chaos

Mandatory clusters

8) 2 large spellblock-clusters, 1 useable skill, some resis, 2 x 70 chaos = 140 chaos
9) 4 medium clusters pure agony, some resis + dex, 1 useable pure agony, 4 passives, 4 x 10-30 chaos = 80 chaos
10) 3 small clusters manamangement sublime form/ uncompromising/ self control, 6% efficiencies, some resis + dex, 3 x 25 - 35 chaos = 90 chaos

Skillgems

11) HoA skillgem lvl 21, default quality, 5 chaos
12) Empower lvl 3 1.5 div
13) Awakened Minion damage 35 chaos

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Total: Low budget (ready for t15-16): 7 div
When you level empower and craft some clusters yourself: 5 div



Medium budget mandatory gear, ready for t16 delirium full juiced maps + simulacrum wave 30 + most ubers + tanky infinitive ehp: 25M Pinnacle-boss-damage

Mandatory gear

1) Eber's unification + HoA-helmet-enchant 1 div
2) Aegis aurora shield 2 div
3) Arakaali dagger 30 chaos
4) Writhing jar flask, 1 chaos
5) Skin of the lords body-armour, ghost dance/ lethe shade/iron reflexes, 5 correct socket colours: 50 chaos
6) Aul uprising amulet, grace reserves no mana: 8 div
7) Ring Circle of Nostalgia, crawler increased damage, HoA 40% efficiencies, 2 x 1 = 2 div
8) Eldritch boots, resis, movementspeed, 25% avoidances or open suffix, 120 es - for permament 100% all elemental ailment-avoidances needed 20-50 greater eldritch orbs + 3-5 orbs of conflict not included 1 div
9) 4 white sockets triad grips gloves 3 div

Mandatory jewels

10) Golden rule jewel 1 chaos
11) Melding of the flesh, almost perfect roll 1 div
12) Watcher's eye, 2 good mods 1 div
13) Split personality, es/ int 1 div
14) Impossible escape /Unwavering stance for +87%-89% max-resis 3 div

Mandatory clusters

15) 3 large spellblock-clusters, 2 useable skills, some resis, 3 x 3 div = 9 div
16) 6 medium clusters pure agony, some resis + dex, 1 useable pure agony, 4 passives, 6 x 10-30 chaos = 120 chaos
17) 3 small clusters manamangement sublime form/ uncompromising/ self control, 6% efficiencies, some resis + dex, 3 x 25 - 35 chaos = 90 chaos

Gems lvl 21, Awakened gems etc.

18) Divergent HoA lvl 21 3 div
19) Empower lvl 4 8 div
20) Awakened minion damage 35 chaos
21) Awakened void manipulation 2.5 div
22) Awakened vicious projectiles 0.5 div
23) Anomalous grace 50 chaos

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Total: 48 div Medium budget
When you level empower and craft clusters/gloves/boots yourself: 33 div



Tanky infinitive ehp + ready for all ubers: 30-40M Pinnacle-boss-damage

United in dreams sword (instead arakaali's dagger), good roll 80 chaos
Uul Netol's Vow amulet (instead aul's etc./) 20 div
Divergent cast when stunned 15 chaos
Divergent storm burst 15 chaos

Other b.i.s. gear-examples:

Skin of the lords, ghost dance/ lethe shade /iron reflexes, 6 correct socket colours: 6 div
Aegis aurora granted grace/ determination 30 div
Eldritch boots, resis, movementspeed, 25% avoidances or open suffix, 150+ es, for 100% permament all elemental ailment-avoidances needed 20-50 greater eldritch orbs + 3-5 orbs of conflict not included 8 div
Voices clusters 3 small passives grant nothing 13 div
Aul uprising amulet, determination reserves no mana 14 div
megamaniac cluster pure agony +2 strong skills 1-20 div
watcher's eye, es gained on hit discipline-mod - 2 div
Awakened Cast While Channelling 2.5 div


To summarize: Aul's uprising amulet, ashes of the stars or +1 + aura-efficiencies rare amulet, are expensive (probably not many delve and auras are popular as always) around 10 div each. Empower lvl 4 is expensive 8 div. All other gear/ clusters/ jewels are the same or cheaper prices as in the last leagues. I checked the prices at a very bad, not fitting trading time and saw most pieces cheaper at earlier times already - like empower lvl 4 to snipe 4 div, large spellblock-cluster 2 useable skills 80 chaos etc...

So the amulet is a minor problem, all other stuff lowbudget ready for t15-16 is around 7 divine orbs. I advice to a rare amulet, only efficiencies for an aura and resis, 10 chaos, lowbudget before aul's or better amulets, and you can already activate easy all 4 big defensive auras (determination -> discipline -> grace -> tempest shield) with "presage" or other additional manamanagement.



When you craft some stuff yourself it's cheaper, but 5 divines will not be enough, sorry. When you level empower it will very tightly fit. I guess t 14 would be possible, I am not sure. With 6-7 divines no problem.

Starting with the shield "apep's slumber" instead "aegis aurora" would make it also easy in t16 possible to go with 5 div, you find a lot more budget-alternatives in the spoiler trade-links next to each slot and in the levelling-spoiler:

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-post/24587360



Sorry for the long wall of text, but that are urgent interesting sanctum-questions, hehehe!
Arachnophilia!

Last edited by Chromino#4813 on Dec 20, 2022, 1:02:23 PM
Thank you for the answer. I was kinda curious how much i need to put in there to get it going so i can farm stuff for more. Very helpful :)
Last edited by Gilron#2538 on Dec 19, 2022, 8:25:18 AM
hey @Chromino. Can you check pls what is wrong with me. Survivability is nice, but dps sucks. I think I only missing empower 4 and herald 21. But dps is way tooooo low. Cant even kill Maven (ez killed her only with spiders before)

https://pastebin.com/Ayh1WRET

thanks a lot
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renfr1 wrote:
hey @Chromino. Can you check pls what is wrong with me. Survivability is nice, but dps sucks. I think I only missing empower 4 and herald 21. But dps is way tooooo low. Cant even kill Maven (ez killed her only with spiders before)

https://pastebin.com/Ayh1WRET

thanks a lot


Hi renfr1,

you are now at 7.5M (configure the tail-attack of HoA in pob).

Raise the HoA to lvl 28 (now 27) and 4 white sockets triad grips (now 3w, 1b).
Use awakened void maniplation +1 and Divergent HoA lvl 21 +1 and empower lvl 4 +1 and later chaos-mastery "corruption" +1 for tipping point lvl 31.

In maps, not singletarget, switch vile toxins to anomalous pierce / or awakened fork.

You use 2 strong curses, but you need the curse-mastery "whispers of doom" with the mastery 20% chance to poison for the ability of 2 curses. Without your generating of HoA-virulences is also not optimal because of the low 65% poisonchance of storm burst. Change out the pathing es-points in the witcher-start area and get a better large cluster instead the veteran-defender with only 2 notables and use whispers of doom.
"Veteran defender" needs to be placed on position 1 or 3 in the jewel-description in the trade-link. Or import that jewel into pob to check. Or instead use a large spellblock-cluster or "master the fundamentals" large cluster when you not get the resis in differnt cluster-transfer-passives.

After that you will be dealing around 20M. I guess you need a bit more mana for proccing reliable all skills and spamming storm burst too. Get the small clusters with 3 passives instead 2 for more efficiencies. "Influence" would raise your +max-resis to 85% with 1 passive. Use Lethe Shade only when you reached 100% ailments-avoidances! Before regret the 2 pathing passives.
Last edited by Chromino#4813 on Dec 20, 2022, 11:50:38 AM
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aboagog1 wrote:


Hey @Chromino, thanks for the previous tips they were helpful,

Iam currently at Teir 12-14 Maps, have about 80% Phys damage reduction, 52% Attackblock, 42% Spellblock (With Offering) and 4.2K Energy shield, 60% ailments avoidance, damage is acceptable but struggling with buffed bosses.

Cannot use Grace beacuse aul's price is very high 12 DIVS!!!

iam trying to save for Aegis but been unlucky with drops.

My problem that i die alot while mapping T12-14 and instantly.

Could please check my gear for any major mistakes and what to prioritize upgrading now for reaching T16

Thanks in advance.


Hey aboagog1,

thank you too.

In general you should raise spellblock and change added fire damage in the HoA-supports to empower (from lvl 2 it's better as added fire damage).

You are already around 200k ehp - that is fine for lvl 87. Did you maxed the important minor pantheon of abberath with divine vessels?
When pob calculates correct, you are at 152 unreserved mana ingame? Then regret "presage" and switch to "arcane sanctuary". A jadeflask instead the manaflask is much better. Ordinary you have no manaproblems without.

Please check also the "checklist defences" if an important stat is missing.

Yes, aegis aurora would be a huge upgrade for your recovery and es. Probably try out before the "apep's slumber" for more recovery instead the rare shield, but you need then at other spots resis. Ordinary apep's slumber carries you into t15 or even t16 easy. When you have enough mana, use also 2% es-reg in the es-mastery for some substain.

Last edited by Chromino#4813 on Dec 20, 2022, 11:33:35 AM
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Chromino wrote:
Raise the HoA to lvl 28 (now 27) and 4 white sockets triad grips (now 3w, 1b).
Use awakened void maniplation +1 and Divergent HoA lvl 21 +1 and empower lvl 4 +1 and later chaos-mastery "corruption" +1 for tipping point lvl 31.


mm as far as i can tell this is not correct. the new updated gem goes from 5% attack speed to 6% at gemlvl 29. the next change is at gemlvl 34 when phys % goes from 11 to 12.

at least this is true for my char in game, i tried it with empower and at 34 with the phys increase attack speed was still 6% so..
Last edited by krkrkkrk#5015 on Dec 20, 2022, 1:58:36 PM
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krkrkkrk wrote:
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Chromino wrote:
Raise the HoA to lvl 28 (now 27) and 4 white sockets triad grips (now 3w, 1b).
Use awakened void maniplation +1 and Divergent HoA lvl 21 +1 and empower lvl 4 +1 and later chaos-mastery "corruption" +1 for tipping point lvl 31.


mm as far as i can tell this is not correct. the new updated gem goes from 5% attack speed to 6% at gemlvl 29. the next change is at gemlvl 34 when phys % goes from 11 to 12.

at least this is true for my char in game, i tried it with empower and at 34 with the phys increase attack speed was still 6% so..


Hi krkrkrk! Arachnophilia!

Yes, the scaling of HoA-lvls and HoA-attackspeed per virulence was changed and buffed.

As far as I can check the numbers ingame at the skillbar-ui the tipping point from 10% to 11% physical damage per virulence stack is at hoA-level 28 and for attackspeed from 5% to 6% per virulence stack at HoA-lvl 29. That are also the actual poe-wiki- and pob-community-fork-numbers.

So the former tipping-point lvl 31 has no more meaning.

Thank you a lot and I updated the numbers!

Last edited by Chromino#4813 on Dec 21, 2022, 11:57:24 AM
hey @chromino,
I see you say for max tankiness to have 3 spellblock clusters, so do we go with three of the mage hunter clusters instead of the minion damge and shield based ones?

Thanks

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