[3.25] CWDT Ward Loop Scion

I have it working very well just the occasional dip I feel, other than that its great.

https://pastebin.com/VEyri9Yk if you have any advice.

I think I'm misunderstanding the Ward > FR on the calc but the loop works just fine, if anyone can explain if i should be MoM or not that would be great!
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Mageofsin wrote:
I have it working very well just the occasional dip I feel, other than that its great.

https://pastebin.com/VEyri9Yk if you have any advice.

I think I'm misunderstanding the Ward > FR on the calc but the loop works just fine, if anyone can explain if i should be MoM or not that would be great!


The ward > FR is telling you whether you are taking life damage from your FR or not. Ideally, you want to get FR damage to less than your ward, because you are currently taking about 470 life dmg each cycle, so about 2000 dps - that is sustainable, but increases risk of dying.

It is also pretty easy to fix, as with your setup there is enough leeway to just get chaos res between -3 and 4, and you will still loop just fine while not taking any damage from FR.

If you get increased effect prefix on your bismuth flask, you should have enough resist to change crafts on your armor pieces to ele res and chaos, which will get you there.
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firenovix wrote:
have spent 62 divines on eldritch ichor and orb of conflicts just trying to get 9% cooldown recovery rate on my boots and have failed every time, am thinking I should of just bought a pair now lol.


I made this mistake as well when trying to use orb of conflict.

The key here is that orbs of conflict are weighted such that it is more likely to elevate the weaker mod. (I.e. if you have a lesser eldritch and greater exarch on boots, the orb of conflict has a greater chance to elevate the eldritch mod)

As Cahir stated, get the CDR mode, use exceptional exarch ichor, THEN apply orb of conflict. It will be much much easier.

Then after you get your CDR high enough, roll for movepseed or whatever else you want with exarch.
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Thats great.

I just got the 28% flask and picked up the bismuth, will pop the chaos on :D
Can someone please help me out wit this ?
The build works exceptionally fine.However, I randomly dropped death by suicide
Here is my pob

https://pastebin.com/uENS5mYa

Also, I'm finding it is quite difficult to balance the stat ( life / ward /chaos resist) so Ward > FR
Last, what should I upgrade to push this build further . My leftover budget is ~ 15 div ,Can push bit more if I liquidate my ID build.
Thank heaps.
Hey, I'm running the occ version and the loop itself works but summon skellies and soulrend/forbidden rite don't have the same refresh time. I'm not sure what I'm missing, calculator says everything is fine, 9% CDR is on the boots. Anyone got an idea? Thanks!
https://pastebin.com/3QMGyg0F is the PoB
Last edited by n4zroth on Jan 17, 2023, 7:31:26 PM
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n4zroth wrote:
Hey, I'm running the occ version and the loop itself works but summon skellies and soulrend/forbidden rite don't have the same refresh time. I'm not sure what I'm missing, calculator says everything is fine, 9% CDR is on the boots. Anyone got an idea? Thanks!
https://pastebin.com/3QMGyg0F is the PoB


Don't think CWDT is meant to go above 21, it's 22 in your chest, and 23(?) in your weapon.
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n4zroth wrote:
Hey, I'm running the occ version and the loop itself works but summon skellies and soulrend/forbidden rite don't have the same refresh time. I'm not sure what I'm missing, calculator says everything is fine, 9% CDR is on the boots. Anyone got an idea? Thanks!
https://pastebin.com/3QMGyg0F is the PoB


Don't think CWDT is meant to go above 21, it's 22 in your chest, and 23(?) in your weapon.


Ah I see, should be fine if I get 18/20 and 17/20, right? Or would I have a problem with skills not being triggered due to their level?
Last edited by n4zroth on Jan 18, 2023, 3:36:19 AM
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n4zroth wrote:
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n4zroth wrote:
Hey, I'm running the occ version and the loop itself works but summon skellies and soulrend/forbidden rite don't have the same refresh time. I'm not sure what I'm missing, calculator says everything is fine, 9% CDR is on the boots. Anyone got an idea? Thanks!
https://pastebin.com/3QMGyg0F is the PoB


Don't think CWDT is meant to go above 21, it's 22 in your chest, and 23(?) in your weapon.


Ah I see, should be fine if I get 18/20 and 17/20, right? Or would I have a problem with skills not being triggered due to their level?


With your current gem levels, you need 17 in weapon, and 18 in chest, yes. Should you upgrade to 21 spells, increase both by 1.
And remember, cwdt gem levels you put into calculator are after increases from items.

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N4Z wrote:
Can someone please help me out wit this ?
The build works exceptionally fine.However, I randomly dropped death by suicide
Here is my pob

https://pastebin.com/uENS5mYa

Also, I'm finding it is quite difficult to balance the stat ( life / ward /chaos resist) so Ward > FR
Last, what should I upgrade to push this build further . My leftover budget is ~ 15 div ,Can push bit more if I liquidate my ID build.
Thank heaps.


Your flask sustain is barely not enough, another 10% charges gained or flask duration will push you to safe zone (easiest upgrade is Restraint with 1 flask charge roll, those are cheap. (Even 2 charge gain roll are usually cheap).
As it is currently, it will work 99% of the times, and then you suddenly die.

As for FR damage, you are close, if you get to -27 chaos res, you will be fine. Even your current config is doable, if you dont run less recovery maps.

With your budget, I would look at double cluster setup and dropping those left-side nodes, I also suggest PoBing double curse setup (with +1 curse annoint), it is usually 25-30% more dps for cheap.
Last edited by Cahir_aep_Ceallach on Jan 18, 2023, 4:37:32 AM
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N4Z wrote:
Can someone please help me out wit this ?
The build works exceptionally fine.However, I randomly dropped death by suicide
Here is my pob

https://pastebin.com/uENS5mYa

Also, I'm finding it is quite difficult to balance the stat ( life / ward /chaos resist) so Ward > FR
Last, what should I upgrade to push this build further . My leftover budget is ~ 15 div ,Can push bit more if I liquidate my ID build.
Thank heaps.


Your flask sustain is barely not enough, another 10% charges gained or flask duration will push you to safe zone (easiest upgrade is Restraint with 1 flask charge roll, those are cheap. (Even 2 charge gain roll are usually cheap).
As it is currently, it will work 99% of the times, and then you suddenly die.

As for FR damage, you are close, if you get to -27 chaos res, you will be fine. Even your current config is doable, if you dont run less recovery maps.

With your budget, I would look at double cluster setup and dropping those left-side nodes, I also suggest PoBing double curse setup (with +1 curse annoint), it is usually 25-30% more dps for cheap.

you are right about this one. will do some upgrades.
Thanks

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