[3.25] CWDT Ward Loop Scion

damn it. my loop don't work and I have no idea what to do...if I still need to change something. btw, will Divergent CWDT help me?

still the damn loop stops after about 30 seconds.


https://pastebin.com/42dv6N8n


https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/NastaseM/characters
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BeneTleilax wrote:
damn it. my loop don't work and I have no idea what to do...if I still need to change something. btw, will Divergent CWDT help me?

still the damn loop stops after about 30 seconds.


https://pastebin.com/42dv6N8n


https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/NastaseM/characters


What happens when your loop fails? Because I see an issue - your Olroth does not have 100% uptime. And Olroth dropping either stops your loop, or just kills you.
If that is the case, just get recommended reduced charges used on belt, 20% is the best, but even 15% should get you full uptime.
What would be the best gem combination from the dps perspective?
This is my POB.
https://pastebin.com/CJhQaguz

I have several question.
1. If I want to increase the tankness, what should I change? Should I change to Glancing Blows body and try to get more block attack?

2. I am thinking to use stormshroud. (I have Sanctified relic, boots and one jewel for 100% avoid shock.) Compared with Kiar, I just got immune ignite. (I have -100% shock effect on helmet+soul.) but I need to get immune curse (maybe with flask + soul). So looks like there is no big change?

3. I saw many people using herald of ice + pain attunement. I try it but almost died every map randomly. Why so many people still using it? Or I miss anything?
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Cahir_aep_Ceallach wrote:
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BeneTleilax wrote:
damn it. my loop don't work and I have no idea what to do...if I still need to change something. btw, will Divergent CWDT help me?

still the damn loop stops after about 30 seconds.


https://pastebin.com/42dv6N8n


https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/NastaseM/characters


What happens when your loop fails? Because I see an issue - your Olroth does not have 100% uptime. And Olroth dropping either stops your loop, or just kills you.
If that is the case, just get recommended reduced charges used on belt, 20% is the best, but even 15% should get you full uptime.



now it really works...I didn't think about the damn potion. Thanks a lot mate!!!
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seevildancer wrote:
This is my POB.
https://pastebin.com/CJhQaguz

I have several question.
1. If I want to increase the tankness, what should I change? Should I change to Glancing Blows body and try to get more block attack?

2. I am thinking to use stormshroud. (I have Sanctified relic, boots and one jewel for 100% avoid shock.) Compared with Kiar, I just got immune ignite. (I have -100% shock effect on helmet+soul.) but I need to get immune curse (maybe with flask + soul). So looks like there is no big change?

3. I saw many people using herald of ice + pain attunement. I try it but almost died every map randomly. Why so many people still using it? Or I miss anything?


1. Glancing blows block is a bait, takes way too many points to get reasonable spell block, and since most things that kill you are either spells or big slams... Just killing stuff faster is a better defense. Suppression version with petrified blood and pain attunement is comparable in damage to your current version, and significantly tankier.
It still IS a wardloop, and "significantly tankier" should be taken as relative statement:D

2. Stormshroud is being slept on for wardloop - full ailment immunity in exchange for <10% damage and some movespeed from boots implicit seems like a nobrainer to me. Ignite immunity is whatever, but it gives you immunity to alt ailments as well, and that reduces random oneshots from being brittle / scorched by a lot.

3. That is the ultimate glass cannon version. You will die. A lot. But those herald explosions are so satisfying...

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BeneTleilax wrote:


now it really works...I didn't think about the damn potion. Thanks a lot mate!!!


You are welcome:) Have fun looping!
Last edited by Cahir_aep_Ceallach#1713 on Dec 29, 2022, 2:38:35 PM
Anyone experimented with the invocations yet?
Point Blank or Mind over Matter for the extra skillpoint seem to be the best, or
am i forgetting something.
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Cahir_aep_Ceallach wrote:
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seevildancer wrote:
This is my POB.
https://pastebin.com/CJhQaguz

I have several question.
1. If I want to increase the tankness, what should I change? Should I change to Glancing Blows body and try to get more block attack?

2. I am thinking to use stormshroud. (I have Sanctified relic, boots and one jewel for 100% avoid shock.) Compared with Kiar, I just got immune ignite. (I have -100% shock effect on helmet+soul.) but I need to get immune curse (maybe with flask + soul). So looks like there is no big change?

3. I saw many people using herald of ice + pain attunement. I try it but almost died every map randomly. Why so many people still using it? Or I miss anything?


1. Glancing blows block is a bait, takes way too many points to get reasonable spell block, and since most things that kill you are either spells or big slams... Just killing stuff faster is a better defense. Suppression version with petrified blood and pain attunement is comparable in damage to your current version, and significantly tankier.
It still IS a wardloop, and "significantly tankier" should be taken as relative statement:D

2. Stormshroud is being slept on for wardloop - full ailment immunity in exchange for <10% damage and some movespeed from boots implicit seems like a nobrainer to me. Ignite immunity is whatever, but it gives you immunity to alt ailments as well, and that reduces random oneshots from being brittle / scorched by a lot.



Thank you for your quick response.
1. I though most of my dead is due to physical damage since we don't have any physical damage reduction. If the major reason is spell, then spell suppression should give me a lot of defense.
BTW, Suppression version with petrified blood? do you mean use petrified blood with aggrogance support?
2. I will try to fit in the stormshroud. :)
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ceberus11 wrote:
After a lot of effort to make the build work I can say the following:
- It has an impressive clear speed.
- It only requires pressing 1 button (or two).
- Great QoL.

However, it has a big problem like most builds that have acceptable damage in PoE...you will die from random "one shots"(mostly by physical projectiles) very often which is very frustrating and demoralizing. From my point of view I don't recommend it, but it's not a problem with the build(you did a great job gathering all the information), it's with the game in general... the damage of the endgame monsters is simply wrong.

After testing dozens of builds I can say:
You build a tank -> Not only that you won't be able to tank 100% of the game but you end up getting bored of the game because of the low damage.
You make a damage oriented build -> You will die constantly (losing XP).
Trying to make a balanced build -> You will end up getting the worst of both worlds.

In short, in front of absolute power, looper or nor, we're all wet sacks of meat and bones.
Pinnacle bosses aren't called Pinnacle for show, and the psychos in Simulacrum, no comment.

As glass cannon, Hatred build can be great for looping boss and Blight-Ravaged map I imagine, but somewhat difficult to justify otherwise in my opinion. From my experiences in mapping, I won't ever try it again.

However, I don't find Suppression build boring. Playing with grace speaks to me more than hatred or zealotry, probably because I am zen. And while my damage will never match a mouth-foaming fanatic with no regard for their life, I am content sitting around 90M. Unless I did my math wrong, but everything die pretty much instantly anyway.

Even so, looping to 100 isn't just demoralizing, it's borderline insane. A matter of state security if the players are allowed into the wild. Looping makes you want to go fast when you should keep it slow for the sake of XP. I don't think I will ever make another build.

It's simply too amazing. The one sad point is we can't trigger traps.
Last edited by Wonderglass#0198 on Dec 29, 2022, 3:24:38 PM
this is my current build:

https://pastebin.com/pSsj60ef

loop and flasks works fine but idk if im missing damage.

what should i change or upgrade ?

can someone help me pls

i have around 10 div to spend.
what should i buy or change next ?

thanks.
Last edited by guillesk8#6650 on Dec 30, 2022, 12:29:02 AM

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