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Tsill1991 wrote:
Hey there wanted to post in here and see if I could get some help but was comparing his pob to mine and my gear is sorta close to his obviously he has some min/max upgrades over me but in the core most of our gear is the same so I was wondering why his pob dps says 40m dps where mine only says 160k and the only BIG differences I see in our builds is he has 99% fire damage on his weapon and then the higher level enhance with unearthed. But if someone would like to take a little time to help me out here is my pob https://pobb.in/1QRiKg14iqJL my phantasmal unearth is lvl 27+5 from helm enchant if that matters. Other than pob saying my damage is like nothing I am loving the build can do juiced t16 easily only thing that I have died to is the big spider boss from the crucible forge but from what I gathered that thing ignores phys damage reduction so I can see why it 1 hits me.
went a quick trip to your pob and saw ur using the lightning variant of vulkuur gloves man. lol u need the fire variant
Didn't realize that stat could be different thanks for the heads up but still don't think that explains why he is doing 40 million dps more than me I just got a pair and put them on and in my pob and it still says I only do 642k dps compared to his 40m+
Last edited by Tsill1991#7356 on Apr 26, 2023, 12:04:01 AM
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Posted byTsill1991#7356on Apr 25, 2023, 11:41:43 PM
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Sinauna wrote:
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Tsill1991 wrote:
Hey there wanted to post in here and see if I could get some help but was comparing his pob to mine and my gear is sorta close to his obviously he has some min/max upgrades over me but in the core most of our gear is the same so I was wondering why his pob dps says 40m dps where mine only says 160k and the only BIG differences I see in our builds is he has 99% fire damage on his weapon and then the higher level enhance with unearthed. But if someone would like to take a little time to help me out here is my pob https://pobb.in/1QRiKg14iqJL my phantasmal unearth is lvl 27+5 from helm enchant if that matters. Other than pob saying my damage is like nothing I am loving the build can do juiced t16 easily only thing that I have died to is the big spider boss from the crucible forge but from what I gathered that thing ignores phys damage reduction so I can see why it 1 hits me.
went a quick trip to your pob and saw ur using the lightning variant of vulkuur gloves man. lol u need the fire variant
Didn't realize that stat could be different thanks for the heads up but still don't think that explains why he is doing 40 million dps more than me I just got a pair and put them on and in my pob and it still says I only do 642k dps compared to his 40m+
I configured your POB to:
Cremation at 1 cast per sec
Unearth Corpse life into your configurations
and Fire variant gloves equivalent to yours.
https://pobb.in/xBrDzmLV7Wmi
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Posted byGryphenprey#0653on Apr 26, 2023, 1:08:33 AM
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Where do we get this mod btw and why is it essential? "Cremation has 85% reduced cast speed"
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Posted bySinauna#2561on Apr 26, 2023, 3:59:43 AM
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Where do we get this mod btw and why is it essential? "Cremation has 85% reduced cast speed"
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Cast speed on cremation is irrelevant for its DPS. Unfortunately, Path of Building does not calculate Cremation dps well, in particular here, where I want to scale poison.
The actual way to scale DPS for Phantasmal Cremation is to take the number of projectiles it fires (it fires all of its projectiles per second), multiply that by the geysers placed (3), and then multiply THAT by your average hit.
Doing this manually for hit DPS is fine, but Poison adds a lot more math. So to SIMULATE it (trick POB into calcing my DPS) I reduced the cast speed manually so that it is exactly 1 cast per second. From there I set the Full DPS Count to the number of corpse explosions I can reasonably expect to land per second (24 with Cremation+GMP).
This way I can see my DOT DPS calculations easier.
TL:DR, I'm tricking POB into letting me see my real numbers.
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Posted byGryphenprey#0653on Apr 26, 2023, 4:45:26 AM
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Hey !
I played the non crit version of this the patch before the gem nerfs and it was probably the tankiest I have ever been. The dps felt great too
How does the present version feel damage wise ? I’m considering swapping from my SRS build ( I’m getting sick of the play style and the non aegis version feels squishy at times)
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Tsill1991 wrote:
Didn't realize that stat could be different thanks for the heads up but still don't think that explains why he is doing 40 million dps more than me I just got a pair and put them on and in my pob and it still says I only do 642k dps compared to his 40m+
I configured your POB to:
Cremation at 1 cast per sec
Unearth Corpse life into your configurations
and Fire variant gloves equivalent to yours.
https://pobb.in/xBrDzmLV7Wmi
TYVM for doing that and as for the build loving it I still occasionally get one hit in juiced t16 maps and died fairly quick to shaper beam but surviving MUCH better than my elementalist ea ballista that I was. Couldn't get past 5% xp at 93 without losing it now I am up to 66% so should be able to actually level some more. One other question I had forgot to ask how do you calculate the health of corpse in pob I noticed you put a number in mine just wondering so when I get upgrades I can adjust.
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Posted byTsill1991#7356on Apr 26, 2023, 2:40:14 PM
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Tsill1991 wrote:
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Sinauna wrote:
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Tsill1991 wrote:
Didn't realize that stat could be different thanks for the heads up but still don't think that explains why he is doing 40 million dps more than me I just got a pair and put them on and in my pob and it still says I only do 642k dps compared to his 40m+
I configured your POB to:
Cremation at 1 cast per sec
Unearth Corpse life into your configurations
and Fire variant gloves equivalent to yours.
https://pobb.in/xBrDzmLV7Wmi
TYVM for doing that and as for the build loving it I still occasionally get one hit in juiced t16 maps and died fairly quick to shaper beam but surviving MUCH better than my elementalist ea ballista that I was. Couldn't get past 5% xp at 93 without losing it now I am up to 66% so should be able to actually level some more. One other question I had forgot to ask how do you calculate the health of corpse in pob I noticed you put a number in mine just wondering so when I get upgrades I can adjust.
It's at the bottom of the guide how to calculate the health pool
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Posted bySinauna#2561on Apr 26, 2023, 8:03:58 PM
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@Gryph I'm wondering how good the watcher's eye mod "Gain ES per enemy hit while affected by Discipline" is? Since we are doing 24 projectiles for 3 geysers, does this mod translate to 24 x 30 ES Gained per hit = 720 ES/s for leech? looking to drop this mod to replace with a block/crit dmg reduction taken mod and free up 4 points
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Posted bySinauna#2561on Apr 26, 2023, 11:59:54 PM
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@Gryph I'm wondering how good the watcher's eye mod "Gain ES per enemy hit while affected by Discipline" is? Since we are doing 24 projectiles for 3 geysers, does this mod translate to 24 x 30 ES Gained per hit = 720 ES/s for leech? looking to drop this mod to replace with a block/crit dmg reduction taken mod and free up 4 points
Well, it's 24 x 30
and it's also all the Cremation projectiles that are firing, the Unearth Projectiles we fire, Tempest Shield triggering and chaining on block...
It's certainly replaceable, but we no longer have leech to compensate. I would take it out of your tree to test it first before buying a new one.
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Posted byGryphenprey#0653on Apr 27, 2023, 11:29:09 AM
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I just realized I can use a head hunter belt :O do you think mageblood would be better if I aim to do delirium content or a HH is actually better? Im wearing a dex/str belt rn which a HH/MB can provide
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Posted bySinauna#2561on Apr 28, 2023, 5:25:43 AM
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