3.23 EXPLOSIVE ARROW BALLISTA ELEMENTALIST - League-Start to End-Game. Easy mode.

I want to do this build but is there a reason there is so little life on the tree? 69% seems very low for end game mapping, will it be enough to survive?
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MastaP89 wrote:
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brunowa wrote:
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CVgMaDBgOD wrote:
What are thresholds for 20 fuses? I googled and info is kinda confusing, on reddit big math post that u need 3.17 aps with 6 ballistas if u dont have quality on EA and no malevolance. bcoz fuses dont last long and explode early.
And with 20 EA quality and malevolence its down to 2.28 aps - is this all true? 3.17 is not achievable and nobody is promoting malevolence in builds so u can get semi-achievable with maxed out gear 2.28 aps. Whats the deal here


The formula is simply:

Attacks per second (APS) x Number of Totems x Accuracy x Duration

Assuming you have 6 totems, 100% accuracy, and 1.4 duration (20% quality EA and 20% from Malevolence), to hit 20 fuses you need roughly 2.4 APS.

With no increased duration you would need over 3 APS... but you'd be silly not to take increased duration because it's such an easy way of boosting DPS. I would say the sweet spot for increased duration is anywhere between 1.35 and 1.55.


which aura do you drop for Malevolence? Grace or Determination and if you dont whats the easiest way to include malevolence into the build?

Also it says I have 3.13 APS 3.48 with onslaught (in the client) im assuming this is a wrong number?

Also are there any suggestions for ubershaper and uberuber elder? the non 85 versions are trivial to the point that theyre super boring elder spefically i can alt tab out, but for the uberuber version im not good enough to never get hit and I usually die very fast if I do get hit... I have killed both but cant do so consistently and the fights last a few minutes... Should I try to stack even more damage or can I get better survivalbility for these fights specifically?


You don't need to drop any aura for Malevolence.

You just need a helm enchant with 30% determin mana reservation efficiency and an Enlighten Level 4.

If you don't have those, consider dropping Determination and using an armour flask. It's better dropping Determin because we already have the Grace mana reservation efficiency mastery from tree which is super helpful. Play around with what feels best for you.

For the Uber Uber fights, more DPS always helps. Defensively, once you learn the mechanics it becomes a bit easier. The hardest part is Shaper's Bullet Hell... but everything else should be fairly manageable.

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MastaP89 wrote:
Thanks I bought a DD but couldnt get it to work. Idk what Im doing wrong but I didnt have enought mana to add another Aura even with taken the grace effiancy node... But I just swapped Grace for Malevolence on ubershaper and uber uber elder and killed both with the most portals to spare ever (I think 4 in both cases) I prolly hit some sort of damage threshold w Malevolence that lets me outdamage them even if I can outskill them lol...

Another question since im accuracy and spell supress capped I dont need either of the 2 go to eldritch implicits on gloves? Is there a good substitute? For example does Lighting/Cold/Fire exposure do anything for us or does that not work because of EE?


Fire DOT is good
Attack speed is good

Exposure doesn't do anything as we already have higher exposure from ascendency.
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Martiusz wrote:
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MastaP89 wrote:
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CVgMaDBgOD wrote:


A cheap and efficient way to reserve more auras is to use the Devouring Diadem. Its really nice in the build... 1 more aura, a lot more mana to use (Es as mana) and you can use an extra aura linked with bleessing + inspiration since you have lots of ES as MANA


is DD better than blizzard crown though? I hope not since i spend 18div for mine


Its really good, depending on your setup its better than the blizzard crown. Check this out:

https://pastebin.com/hyJrYKx3

Malevolence + Determination + Grace + Precision + Defiance Banner

And you can temporarily add Wrath or Haste with inspiration. It makes a lot of difference and you don't need Lifetap, which means MORE DMG.


DD might be a good temporary solution if you don't have an Enlighten gem and helm enchant. But once you have those, Blizzard crown will outshine purely based on raw DPS and also for the fact you can get any other stats on it you want like spell suppression, life, resistances, and then also for top tier stats like Nearby Enemies have -9/12 fire res and Ignites Deal Damage faster.

You ultimately want to strive for something like this, albeit expensive:



Getting enough accuracy elsewhere on gear to the point that you don't need Precision is really helpful too.

I have found that before adding Malelovence, the best helm is this:


The DPS is insane, attack speed is insane, dexterity really helps, movement speed is awesome, chaos resistance... it's just a fucking good helmet and can carry you through everything and it only costs 5c or so. But ultimately, if you want to add Malevolence then just do so when you get Enlighten 4 and can fit it in.
Last edited by brunowa#6253 on Aug 31, 2022, 2:13:43 AM
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brunowa wrote:
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Martiusz wrote:
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MastaP89 wrote:


Its really good, depending on your setup its better than the blizzard crown. Check this out:

https://pastebin.com/hyJrYKx3

Malevolence + Determination + Grace + Precision + Defiance Banner

And you can temporarily add Wrath or Haste with inspiration. It makes a lot of difference and you don't need Lifetap, which means MORE DMG.


DD might be a good temporary solution if you don't have an Enlighten gem and helm enchant. But once you have those, Blizzard crown will outshine purely based on raw DPS and also for the fact you can get any other stats on it you want like spell suppression, life, resistances, and then also for top tier stats like Nearby Enemies have -9/12 fire res and Ignites Deal Damage faster.

You ultimately want to strive for something like this, albeit expensive:



Getting enough accuracy elsewhere on gear to the point that you don't need Precision is really helpful too.

I have found that before adding Malelovence, the best helm is this:


The DPS is insane, attack speed is insane, dexterity really helps, movement speed is awesome, chaos resistance... it's just a fucking good helmet and can carry you through everything and it only costs 5c or so. But ultimately, if you want to add Malevolence then just do so when you get Enlighten 4 and can fit it in.


But the pob i linked already have max ignite dps, so damage is not a problem with DD. Its a good alternative.
Last edited by Martiusz#2412 on Aug 31, 2022, 7:04:03 AM
Hey, can someone take a look at my pob and advice me on what should I aim to upgrade now?

https://pastebin.com/CsnnAUpv

I am farming black star for the Polaric Devastation ring but I feel that I am not doing that much dmg on bosses.
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Martiusz wrote:

But the pob i linked already have max ignite dps, so damage is not a problem with DD. Its a good alternative.


It does look pretty solid. You miss the potential QOL that another helm can bring for stats that could round out the build for the benefit of using a blessing for pure DPS. But DD does have some other nice features too.

It is a great way to get the blessing in though to help with DPS.

BTW, the POB isn't ignite capped. It's at 9.7mill DPS when Uber Pinnacle Boss is selected so there is still some way to go. But it's plenty to do all content comfortably and if you aren't farming Uber Bosses then it doesn't matter anyway :)
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brunowa wrote:
With no increased duration you would need over 3 APS... but you'd be silly not to take increased duration because it's such an easy way of boosting DPS. I would say the sweet spot for increased duration is anywhere between 1.35 and 1.55.

Do you know why Palsteron recommend to have no increased duration? He recommends to use Anger and EA gem with no quality, because the delay for the explosions is longer. Would you say with duration it feels worse but the damage make up for it?
Last edited by FedeS#7818 on Aug 31, 2022, 9:37:54 PM
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raz_raziel wrote:
Hey, can someone take a look at my pob and advice me on what should I aim to upgrade now?

https://pastebin.com/CsnnAUpv

I am farming black star for the Polaric Devastation ring but I feel that I am not doing that much dmg on bosses.


Haven't looked at POB, but a quick look at gear I would say:

1) Get more attack speed. Bow has low attack speed.
2) Get a level 21/20 EA gem. Get 20% quality on gem for 20% more duration helping to get more fuses and bigger DPS. Low duration and low attack speed = low DPS.
3) You could get a quiver with double DOT.
4) Get one of the helmets listed above for more attack speed (Devotos), or more base DPS (Blizzard), or to run a DPS blessing (Devouring Diadiem).
5) Allocate Watchtowers on amulet for another totem and more DPS.
6) Get an Atziri's Promise flask.

I haven't looked at tree but the above will get you started.
Last edited by brunowa#6253 on Aug 31, 2022, 9:57:43 PM
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FedeS wrote:
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brunowa wrote:
With no increased duration you would need over 3 APS... but you'd be silly not to take increased duration because it's such an easy way of boosting DPS. I would say the sweet spot for increased duration is anywhere between 1.35 and 1.55.

Do you know why Palsteron recommend to have no increased duration? He recommends to use Anger and EA gem with no quality, because the delay for the explosions is longer. Would you say with duration it feels worse but the damage make up for it?


Palsteron's is just for levelling. When levelling you won't even have quality on EA gem.

Don't listen to a word Palsteron says beyond levelling this build... because he has literally only played the build for 2 days in 3.17 and another 2 days in 3.18 so he has no idea what EA is like beyond level 90.

Don't take Anger. Anger will mean you don't get Elemental Equilibrium which is a huge DPS loss.

For duration, it ultimately comes down to what content you are doing. If you are simply farming T16 maps then having no increased duration is totally fine as you ultimately want to just kill packs as fast as possible and move on... and DPS doesn't matter so much as everything will die quickly anyway.

But if you want to start doing Pinnacle Bosses, then duration makes a massive difference, allowing you to stack more fuses and hit much higher DPS numbers.

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