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Dmillz wrote:
I'm seriously considering league starting this and just running Armageddon Brand (or hell maybe Flameblast, new numbers are juicy) until day 2/3 which should be enough to get a crappy white helmet with the enchant and some +1 or +2 gems 4L which should be easily enough to carry into red maps.
The only thing I'm worried about is the alt-quality Unearth but I don't think this is going to be a very popular build early in the league.
It might not be popular but there's a decent demand on Phantasmal Unearth and a super low supply. Wouldn't be surprised if its expensive even early. But yeah, once you have that the rest is just a matter of time.
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Posted byGryphenprey#0653on Jan 27, 2022, 7:29:14 PM
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After checking corpse life values (https://poedb.tw/us/Bone_Archer#Lvl84) I think it'll be totally fine going straight into Unearth DD ignite. Should still be able to have 1.5m+ dps with pretty trash gear which is easily more than enough to get through red maps.
IGN: Dmillz Last edited by Dmillz#6641 on Jan 27, 2022, 8:40:01 PM
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Posted byDmillz#6641on Jan 27, 2022, 8:15:23 PM
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Dmillz wrote:
After checking corpse life values (https://poedb.tw/us/Bone_Archer#Lvl84) I think it'll be totally fine going straight into Unearth DD ignite. Should still be able to have 1.5m+ dps with pretty trash gear which is easily more than enough to get through red maps.
I was planning to test a league start with Unearth DD to see how it felt pre-alt quality. I did it in endless heist and it actually felt fine for leveling. I just wasn't planning to say anything definitive before I tested it myself. XD
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Posted byGryphenprey#0653on Jan 27, 2022, 8:49:30 PM
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Something of a nerf - it may be that hands of the high templar are much rarer in 3.17, as Sirus is likely to be rarer.
Even getting +3 or +4 ones may be very expensive this time round, and we may spend a lot of time settling for +4 facebreakers or whatever and +1 gems on amulet and weapon.
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Posted byNoImagination#6952on Jan 28, 2022, 2:36:14 AM
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NoImagination wrote:
Something of a nerf - it may be that hands of the high templar are much rarer in 3.17, as Sirus is likely to be rarer.
Even getting +3 or +4 ones may be very expensive this time round, and we may spend a lot of time settling for +4 facebreakers or whatever and +1 gems on amulet and weapon.
Not really a "nerf" imo. Sirus is now easily target farmed via the fragments. I didn't really expect good gloves to be available until at least week 2 either way and gg gloves for a while after that.
I suppose they would be expensive regardless but I think that's okay. Having items to chase after for the course of the league is good. :)
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Posted byGryphenprey#0653on Jan 28, 2022, 6:50:46 AM
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Gryphenprey wrote:
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Dmillz wrote:
After checking corpse life values (https://poedb.tw/us/Bone_Archer#Lvl84) I think it'll be totally fine going straight into Unearth DD ignite. Should still be able to have 1.5m+ dps with pretty trash gear which is easily more than enough to get through red maps.
I was planning to test a league start with Unearth DD to see how it felt pre-alt quality. I did it in endless heist and it actually felt fine for leveling. I just wasn't planning to say anything definitive before I tested it myself. XD
Yeah, would be great if you share your testing results here, really interested in this build
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Posted byMrNonamer#0396on Jan 28, 2022, 10:10:54 AM
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MrNonamer wrote:
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Gryphenprey wrote:
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Dmillz wrote:
After checking corpse life values (https://poedb.tw/us/Bone_Archer#Lvl84) I think it'll be totally fine going straight into Unearth DD ignite. Should still be able to have 1.5m+ dps with pretty trash gear which is easily more than enough to get through red maps.
I was planning to test a league start with Unearth DD to see how it felt pre-alt quality. I did it in endless heist and it actually felt fine for leveling. I just wasn't planning to say anything definitive before I tested it myself. XD
Yeah, would be great if you share your testing results here, really interested in this build
Most likely, Fireball or Magma Orb will feel much better for leveling/early maps if I had to guess given how much they got buffed and given that DD ignite lost 28% damage from the generic ignite nerf as well.
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Posted byGryphenprey#0653on Jan 28, 2022, 12:44:03 PM
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MrNonamer wrote:
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Gryphenprey wrote:
I was planning to test a league start with Unearth DD to see how it felt pre-alt quality. I did it in endless heist and it actually felt fine for leveling. I just wasn't planning to say anything definitive before I tested it myself. XD
Yeah, would be great if you share your testing results here, really interested in this build
I wouldn't actually level as Unearth DD, you want to do something like Freezing Pulse or Rolling Magma -> Wave of Conviction (lv16) -> Armageddon Brand (lv28) then run AB until probably around maps. Even if the damage is fine having to cast 2 skills to level is going to just be slower than dropping brands and sprinting through the zones. Also ignite prolif is extremely mediocre until you get denser zones where it can spread to more of the screen.
How's the uptime on Elemental Overload though? With 5% crit chance I'm actually worried it won't be up very consistently.
IGN: Dmillz Last edited by Dmillz#6641 on Jan 28, 2022, 1:38:58 PM
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Posted byDmillz#6641on Jan 28, 2022, 1:36:44 PM
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Dmillz wrote:
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MrNonamer wrote:
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Gryphenprey wrote:
I was planning to test a league start with Unearth DD to see how it felt pre-alt quality. I did it in endless heist and it actually felt fine for leveling. I just wasn't planning to say anything definitive before I tested it myself. XD
Yeah, would be great if you share your testing results here, really interested in this build
I wouldn't actually level as Unearth DD, you want to do something like Freezing Pulse or Rolling Magma -> Wave of Conviction (lv16) -> Armageddon Brand (lv28) then run AB until probably around maps. Even if the damage is fine having to cast 2 skills to level is going to just be slower than dropping brands and sprinting through the zones. Also ignite prolif is extremely mediocre until you get denser zones where it can spread to more of the screen.
How's the uptime on Elemental Overload though? With 5% crit chance I'm actually worried it won't be up very consistently.
Well, you can pick up some incidental crit in places and that helps a lot. Vaal DD also hits a ton of time when used and so even with really low crit will most likely proc EO. I have 13% crit chance on mine and that feels fine to me (I'm also pretty spammy with the skill too)
You can always use a diamond flask if you are lacking crit as well.
And yeah, for leveling Unearth+DD isn't exactly *fast*. Geddon Brand+Cremation has typically been my go-to. I'm also not one to look to for leveling advice because I just kinda do whatever I want on a whim for campaign. xD
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Posted byGryphenprey#0653on Jan 28, 2022, 2:02:22 PM
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And yeah, for leveling Unearth+DD isn't exactly *fast*. Geddon Brand+Cremation has typically been my go-to. I'm also not one to look to for leveling advice because I just kinda do whatever I want on a whim for campaign. xD
Nah, guys, when I am talking about levelling, I actually meant T1-T8 maps or so, before I can earn enough for phantasmal unearth
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Posted byMrNonamer#0396on Jan 29, 2022, 7:58:19 AM
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