👻3.20👻 Kay's Summoner💥SRS Bomber💀Poison SRS💀Melee SRS🕷️Spiders💀Skeleton Mages

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Deadandlivin wrote:

The loss of EE hurt us way more than I thought it would.
Trying to make a cold conversion build league starter and really struggling trying to get above 1 million sDPS on a modest budget.
Hoping PoB is bugged or something because it's looking kinda rough for me.

Might have to check out pure phys if I can't make it work.
Hopefully you'll release some updated pure phys guides we can draw inspiration from :-)

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kayella wrote:

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Deadandlivin wrote:

The loss of EE hurt us way more than I thought it would.
Trying to make a cold conversion build league starter and really struggling trying to get above 1 million sDPS on a modest budget.
Hoping PoB is bugged or something because it's looking kinda rough for me.

Might have to check out pure phys if I can't make it work.
Hopefully you'll release some updated pure phys guides we can draw inspiration from :-)

No EE makes cold conversion much weaker. pure ele and ele conversion is probably dead? 8% pen + curse with reduce effect can't make up for EE.

I'm going to focus on phys this league because the 20% overwhelm seems OP (vs 8% ele pen). But I think it's not added to POB yet because it doesn't change dps vs 'sirus'.

Poison spiders is basically same as before though still 1.1m DPS each :P The new shield is completely broken too. Can scale spiders to 3m+

edit: I hope there is good phys spectre in scourge to save pure spectres build :(

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kayella wrote:

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Fenris1970 wrote:

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kayella wrote:

Doesn't seem like too much minion damage lost from passive tree though.

I think its quite bad. We lost more than 100% damage from the tree.
This is from Reddit:

Spoiler

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Minions

Enduring Bond SRS/Phantasm refresh on Unique enemies removed and no longer exists anywhere.

Spiritual Aid cluster lost 30% minion damage, 4% minion life, 30% minion accuracy. Gained 5% minion attack/cast speed.

Grave Pact cluster lost 13% minion damage, 4% minion accuracy, 6% minion attack speed. Gained 2% minion double damage.

Fearsome Force cluster lost 22% minion damage and 10 int. Gained 11% minion AOE.

Death Attunement cluster lost 8% minion attack/cast speed. Gained 2% minion damage.

Golem Commander cluster lost 20% increased damage for the player, 7% golem life. Gained 10% increased golem buff effect.

Ravenous Horde cluster lost 38% minion damage. Gained 2% minion attack speed, 11% minion movespeed, 20% chance for minions to proc onslaught (was 10%).

Yeah lots of nodes got nerfed or removed, but I mean most people don't allocate all the the damage passive points (I think!)

For example, I don't allocate last 2x 10% next to Aid notable (allocate on cluster instead for extra stats or take life nodes instead).

Same for Fearsome force. I never use that cluster. I guess MI builds use it?

And maybe same for Rav Horde. most people anoint it, right?

Maybe another way to think is you can now use 9pt or 10pt large instead of expensive 8pt :P

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Bjorn_Angannon wrote:

Regarding Ravenous Horde; if PoB v.2.9.0 is correct, the oil cost has dastically changed from Verdant/Opa/Opa to Verdant/Silver/Golden.

ouch

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Deadandlivin wrote:

I'm no expert at phys minions, never done one.
What exactly does the overwhelm thing do? I'm under the impression that it kinda works like Ele penetration, but for phys instead.

If that's the case, how does it work with Impale?
I thought one of the main reasons why you went phys impale was because Impale stacks ignored physical defenses.

Spoiler

"When a hit applies impale to a target, 10% of that hit's physical damage is recorded before any damage mitigation is applied."

So kinda thought Overwhelm wouldn't do anything since you're already bypassing monster defenses with impale.

How does it work exactly?

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CopyWritten wrote:

Well, I got about 120k per skele, 7-8mill damage on a budget phys/impale skele/spectre build. Should be enough for a league start and carry me into sirus end game. I'll reroll spiders depending on the shield rarity and whatnot, but not worth risking starting that build without knowing drop chance of the new uniques.

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Rainbow4Dashi wrote:

Pob updated, ggg give us damage for minions, on left cluster, where is Redemption and ect.
and a little buffs on damage over +1 spectre and on start from witch (lord of the dead)