If im doing the old spectre build... which one u think are better for clear!? still syndicate opperative? with which gems?
Thx!!
I tested SO last league (after the big nerf) and they didn't feel good. SO base damage is very low compared to other monsters so without shotgun the damage is pretty low. Map clear is OK, but I think it will struggle in current POE map density. Bossing felt pretty bad actually. I bricked Maven even though I used good gear
I used Hyrri's Watch in the spectre guide because I think it's the best all round spectre now (good damage + ranged). You can scale it up really high actually.
If im doing the old spectre build... which one u think are better for clear!? still syndicate opperative? with which gems?
Thx!!
I tested SO last league (after the big nerf) and they didn't feel good. SO base damage is very low compared to other monsters so without shotgun the damage is pretty low. Map clear is OK, but I think it will struggle in current POE map density. Bossing felt pretty bad actually. I bricked Maven even though I used good gear
I used Hyrri's Watch in the spectre guide because I think it's the best all round spectre now (good damage + ranged). You can scale it up really high actually.
I agree hat Hyrri's Watch feel like the best spectres right now.
Imo, their biggest weakness is that they have a very slow attack speed and feel sluggish with bad gear. Their projectile speed and range is excellent though, but the time between their attacks make them feel less smooth than SOs for map clearing.
Things like Ashes of the Stars making Flesh Offering give like 70% attack speed et.c. combined with Unending Hunger smoothens out the experience alot however.
The biggest benefit of SOs is how smooth their projectiles cover the map. The weakness is that they do negative damage. You will need very good gear for their damage to be enough to clear juiced content. Even better gear for them to smoothly kill bosses. A SO build literally needs mirrors worth of gear to do the single target damage of a 30 ex build which is laughable.
That being said, I think damaging spectres in general are in a very bad spot right now. They simply do less damage than ALL other minions in the game.
I think the biggest problem is their leveling scaling.
At level 20, all minions in this game get 10% more damage per level up to level 30. At level 30 Golems, Zombies, skellies, SRS et.c. start getting 5% per level. Spectres however, only get 5% more damage per level after level 20.
That means that at level 30, spectres have 50% reduced scaling compared to other minions.
I believe this is the reason yoo literally can take any Spectre build and replace the Spectre gem with any other minion and get ~50% more dps.
Things like Skeletons even get 100% more dps, but that's because Skellies have a 50% more damage multiplier added onto the skillgem itself making it deal more damage than all other minions.
I agree hat Hyrri's Watch feel like the best spectres right now.
Imo, their biggest weakness is that they have a very slow attack speed and feel sluggish with bad gear. Their projectile speed and range is excellent though, but the time between their attacks make them feel less smooth than SOs for map clearing.
Things like Ashes of the Stars making Flesh Offering give like 70% attack speed et.c. combined with Unending Hunger smoothens out the experience alot however.
The biggest benefit of SOs is how smooth their projectiles cover the map. The weakness is that they do negative damage. You will need very good gear for their damage to be enough to clear juiced content. Even better gear for them to smoothly kill bosses. A SO build literally needs mirrors worth of gear to do the single target damage of a 30 ex build which is laughable.
That being said, I think damaging spectres in general are in a very bad spot right now. They simply do less damage than ALL other minions in the game.
I think the biggest problem is their leveling scaling.
At level 20, all minions in this game get 10% more damage per level up to level 30. At level 30 Golems, Zombies, skellies, SRS et.c. start getting 5% per level. Spectres however, only get 5% more damage per level after level 20.
That means that at level 30, spectres have 50% reduced scaling compared to other minions.
I believe this is the reason yoo literally can take any Spectre build and replace the Spectre gem with any other minion and get ~50% more dps.
Things like Skeletons even get 100% more dps, but that's because Skellies have a 50% more damage multiplier added onto the skillgem itself making it deal more damage than all other minions.
Yeah, I think it's really sad GGG destroyed spectre as main minion. 6 levels at gem level 25 is about 40% life and 30% dps. DPS scaling has always been bad with spectres too (4.5% per level). Actually Sentinels and skeles have about 13% per level!
So now the only advantage is permanent + ranged. Only other ranged minion is skele mages, but that for me that is just like playing totem build.
If you like melee minions, any other minion is better (golem permanent / AW/sentinel/skele temporary). And it's easy to get 3x power/frenzy charge from chieftains. Usually that gives double damage!
I guess the only upside is I try building for other minions nowadays :)))
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Any idea how to do Hall of grandmasters with this build? I'm doing the skeletons one.
I'm not very developed yet but I'm running guardian maps without issues. But I can't run a tier 5 Hogm to save my life.
HoGM is a troll map :P
It has PVP scaling but not for minions. So if the enemy does 1,000,000 DPS, it will just be 1,000 DPS against your necro, but your minion will get the 1,000,000 DPS and instantly die (NEVER TAKE AG into Hogm!!).
Also many of them have cap/overcap block, life/ES recovery and huge regen. This is a big problem for minions because usually they do lots of small hits and it just gets blocked or helps recover.
I have cleared HoGM with SRS bomber though. Almost cleared with infernal skitterbots too but last guy (Demi) had 7000ES regen and couldnt kill him :(
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Aaah... u using skel mage + Hyrri's Watch? hm... maybe i will test it and send msg to u in game to got this spectres, ok!?
yes skelemage with hyrri's watch, phantasms(triggered by skeletons), zombies, AG, skitterbots, zealotry, determination, tempest shield, stone golem, and molten shell(triggered by wand).
look me up in standard and i'll give whatever spectres i have. i currently have hyrri's watch, pale seraphim, syndicate operatives, frost auto scouts, and they of tul. that's all i remember right now lol
Nice mix of minions build!!
I will send msg to u bro, thx a lot for theorycraft!!
If im doing the old spectre build... which one u think are better for clear!? still syndicate opperative? with which gems?
Thx!!
I tested SO last league (after the big nerf) and they didn't feel good. SO base damage is very low compared to other monsters so without shotgun the damage is pretty low. Map clear is OK, but I think it will struggle in current POE map density. Bossing felt pretty bad actually. I bricked Maven even though I used good gear
I used Hyrri's Watch in the spectre guide because I think it's the best all round spectre now (good damage + ranged). You can scale it up really high actually.
Hello Exiles,I need some advice on mana reservation.
I'm playing Skelemage with Purity of Elements, Determination, Defiance Banner, Purity of Ice and Tempest Shield. I have charisma anointed on Breathstealers, 18% from Ashes and 43% from Sovereignty. This is the PoB - https://pastebin.com/QJrms631
I need to include Skitterbots and Zealotry-Generosity if possible. The options I know about are -
VERY expensive shield with %ES on block and/ or %life on block, extra block and 30% reservation on socketed skills.
Eldritch implicit on helm for 7-10% reservation. I would lose the 20% Minion Damage implicit on Bone Helmets though.
Any and all advice is welcome.
I think the shield has the biggest mod.
Maybe you can metacraft a delve helmet? (mana efficiency is suffix mod)
Can you drop Purity of Ice?
You can also get clusters with reservation efficiency for Zealotry/Determination etc.
The shield also has the biggest price tag and I'm not sure I can farm up 30ex for it by end of league.
I can try essences of loathing to try and get mana reservation on helmet to complement the eldritch mods but that would not work if I get a 6 link helmet later.
Purity of Ice, Aegis and Melding of the Flesh gives me 85% all res and I don't want to drop it.
Hence reservation clusters may be my best bet. But I don't know which ones will let me fit in skitterbots. Zealotry-Generosity seems impossible at this point.
Any idea how to do Hall of grandmasters with this build? I'm doing the skeletons one.
I'm not very developed yet but I'm running guardian maps without issues. But I can't run a tier 5 Hogm to save my life.
HoGM is a troll map :P
It has PVP scaling but not for minions. So if the enemy does 1,000,000 DPS, it will just be 1,000 DPS against your necro, but your minion will get the 1,000,000 DPS and instantly die (NEVER TAKE AG into Hogm!!).
Also many of them have cap/overcap block, life/ES recovery and huge regen. This is a big problem for minions because usually they do lots of small hits and it just gets blocked or helps recover.
I have cleared HoGM with SRS bomber though. Almost cleared with infernal skitterbots too but last guy (Demi) had 7000ES regen and couldnt kill him :(
Thanks for your reply, and yes you're totally right the dps doesn't scale and that's why my skeletons get obliterated as soon as I summon them.
maybe if I temporarily change the 6 chest gems to some other attacking skill just for this map? Any recommendations?
