[3.16] Forbidden Rite Totem

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garthurion wrote:

I'm using Zerphi's Heart with anomolous hypothermia but i'm not seeing any freezes. Seem like a bug ?

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jojonel wrote:

Great tutorial, but im curious why are you saying that +1 totem shield is worse than a wand? Does the DPS not go higher with 1 extra totem + all the proj the the totem fires? Also you get some block and es + life roll, spell damage and maybe get flat mana on block or mana % on block etc.

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loloppe wrote:

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jojonel wrote:

Great tutorial, but im curious why are you saying that +1 totem shield is worse than a wand? Does the DPS not go higher with 1 extra totem + all the proj the the totem fires? Also you get some block and es + life roll, spell damage and maybe get flat mana on block or mana % on block etc.

"A +1 totem shield is usually weaker than a wand and harder to acquire."

You're right that a good +1 totem shield would be better DPS-wise, but with my setup, not really defensively.

For the DPS: going from 4 to 5 totem is 25% More DPS + (5% from Ascendancy).
If you use Multiple Totem Support, then it's 6 to 7, which is a 16.66% More DPS + (5% from Ascendancy) (already not worth).

My current worse wand cost around 5-10ex, give me 40% More DPS and come with a t1 Projectile Speed mod, which greatly make the build feels faster and safer.

If I were to get a +1 totem shield with 40% increased Spell Damage, 10% increased Cast Speed, then I would get similar DPS from the shield, but that would only apply if I were to cast that extra totem, this would only happen against boss in realistic situation.

Downside: Having to cast another totem suck. To get a good shield, you might have to pay 2 to 4 time the amount that a similar DPS wand would cost you (and good luck finding one for sale in the first place).

Upside: Yea you can get some more life on the shield. I do get Mana from my wand so Mana is not an upside. 30%~ block is pretty useless without any other investment in block (in tree for example) and if you were to then invest some points in the tree, then you will have to lose even more EHP or DPS or etc., making it worse than just going for a wand.

The real upside of using a Shield: Fortity via Shield Charges, but Shield Charging in pack will end up killing you a few time, so is that really a good thing? Also, I'm pretty sure that Shield Charges is slower than my current CDR Flame Dash + Phase Run setup, and Phase Run is way safer to use.

My main point is: Investing in a shield won't save you from the thing that will be killing you without one. You can easily reach 100 on totem build by mapping just by playing more carefully. The build already got 10k EHP+ without a shield. Blocking require heavy investment to be decent.

Edit: I've also seen some people recommend using a medium projectile clusters for taunt on hit or blind on clusters. I don't see how that would be any useful as a defensive option. By the time the monster would get taunted or blinded, they would already be dead from your totem in the first place. The build do enough damage to one-shot most enemy. Also, taunt and blind aren't that useful against boss, I rather know that the boss will attack me to dodge properly than to get caught off guard because the boss randomly started attacking my totem (Izaro is a good example of that).

In general mapping, I already get blind from Asenath's anyway. Also, I cannot afford to drop any of my two totem medium clusters, my totem would die because of Soul Eater. And going for a third clusters would be terrible (unless I buy a 1os (1 mirror) or 3os Voices (40ex+)). But that's an option I guess. I think I would prefer to get a curse clusters for Unnerve and Cull.

If you really want to get a crazy +1 totem shield, then there's a way: You can fracture the +1 totem on a shield, and then craft whatever else on the shield. That's pretty much the only good way of crafting it.

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loloppe wrote:

Wither -> Spell Totem -> Multiple Totems

This is a basic automated Wither setup. Multiple Totems allow you to place two extra spell totem that will Wither the enemy without losing any totem from your main damage setup.