(3.16) NERFED DO NOT PLAY THIS Raider Archmage BF/BB [CHEAP, Tanky, HCSSF viable, (100m+ dps)

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Molokoa wrote:
To start, I am playing and enjoying the build in t16s waltzing through ultimatums, so thanks for all the effort you put into it.

But there are some silly things in your "GG" PoB.

1. You have the awakened gems at level 21 each. They cap out at level 6 with a corruption.

2. You have MoM specced on the tree while using Cloak of Defiance (can throw that somewhere else)

I am also questioning how DPS is being calculated in this case. As of now the 240M number in your PRB is based on you detonating 40 blades multiplied by your cast speed per second. This seems unreasonable/fake.

How are you getting over 240 blades down and detonating them per second? (Avg hit is ~950k) If you can't get 240 blades down per second and detonate all of them then you aren't hitting 240m dps like in the PoB. This also ignores that not all of the blades will hit the target.


Cast speed is effectively being used as an extreme more multiplier (effective 550% more) for the dps when I think it doesn't truly impact our overall dps nearly as much and is more QoL. Maybe I am misunderstanding how cast speed interacts with blade blast (does it speed up the detonation chain speed or something?)
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lolmen5 wrote:
What Respec mean? I need to use a lot of orbs of regret, to change the whole tree?


You get most of the respec points from just finishing act 10 and some side quests. I don't remember the exact count but its somewhere around 24 respec points needed
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ForTheDream wrote:
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Karmoth666 wrote:
Hello ppl, i want to start in ssf, is this build viable for it, or should i take another build as ssf league starter?
are there some folks who have some experience with this build an ssf league start?
thanks all

im basically playing ssfsc, killed sirus for the first time yesterday and have a good time mapping t14-16s. the only thing that took some time was farming BA for tabula.

I'm on SSF currently farming tabula (8/9), it's quite tedious and I don't have much time to play, but at least the trap build is pleasant and quite powerful.
Did you respec just after tabula, or did you wait a bit (for the anointment or something ?)

basically right after tabula but its probably worth it to safe some refund points first. my tree had alot of useless points until maps and it clearly showed in the boss fights that i lacked some dmg.

i actually went to t13 or t14 maps without the anoint and without agnostic. i anointed after i got a lucky foible drop in t15 canyon
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Molokoa wrote:
To start, I am playing and enjoying the build in t16s waltzing through ultimatums, so thanks for all the effort you put into it.

But there are some silly things in your "GG" PoB.

1. You have the awakened gems at level 21 each. They cap out at level 6 with a corruption.

2. You have MoM specced on the tree while using Cloak of Defiance (can throw that somewhere else)

I am also questioning how DPS is being calculated in this case. As of now the 240M number in your PRB is based on you detonating 40 blades multiplied by your cast speed per second. This seems unreasonable/fake.

How are you getting over 240 blades down and detonating them per second? (Avg hit is ~950k) If you can't get 240 blades down per second and detonate all of them then you aren't hitting 240m dps like in the PoB. This also ignores that not all of the blades will hit the target.


1. awakened gems got defaulted to 20 for some reason, can't update the PoB due to being capped out on generated pastebins on my ip for the day. This has been stated multiple times.

2. already done

Bladeblast has a detonation sequence via a spell loop, the brief delay during bf gets shorter and shorter until it's eventually removed. 240 blades isn't realistic but 120-140 is, we split it in half to account for the bladefall. This is why raider and inquis are doing so much more with bfbb than other builds because we don't get sequence locked due to our cast speed. Inquis has to heavily invest into cast speed, ours comes naturally allowing us to stack defensives.

either way, you're insta phasing sirus.
Last edited by ChemistHCSSF#2067 on Apr 22, 2021, 6:53:42 PM
@ChemistHCSSF, I was playing around with the new end game POB scaling it down to my gear and making it affordable(aka cheap cluster jewels and no thread of hope) and it seems better than the original build.


I went from ~7 million Sirus DPS to ~9 million, gained ~ 200 mana, but lost ~150 mana regen.
Thanks a lot for this thorough guide ChemistHCSSF , appreciate your effort and patience . I'm a noob at poe and struggling to get any proper dmg so far , it would be awesome if you please re-link the discord invitation link cause it expired .
FYI the latest Path of Building Community (2.3.0) is supposed to fix the issue with Essence Worm's "Socketed Gems Have no Reservation".
How decent is this build with reasonable investment (50 ex ?) seems really gear dependant bit worried about it.
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cexybast wrote:
Thanks a lot for this thorough guide ChemistHCSSF , appreciate your effort and patience . I'm a noob at poe and struggling to get any proper dmg so far , it would be awesome if you please re-link the discord invitation link cause it expired .


link is working
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Ethario wrote:
How decent is this build with reasonable investment (50 ex ?) seems really gear dependant bit worried about it.
This is designed for SSF. 50ex is going to get you gear that will crush anything.

For comparison, I'm smashing content. I'm deep into red maps. I've died 12 times in total, and most of those were my own fault. I haven't spent FIVE exalt yet, probably closer to two.
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