Game Balance in Path of Exile: Ultimatum

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hwat wrote:

Seems you just can't allow people to have fun in this game. Every league you nerf all popular builds, providing no alternatives at all.
This manifesto is a pure shame.
You nerf golems like third time in row. You Really dont want summoners be playable, why do you keep them in game in first place?
In the past I had motivation to find a way to play summoner no matter what. Now I just completely tired of this shit. [Removed by Support] you remove all creativity and fun just by nerfing everything to the ground.

That's exactly the opposite of what's happening here. Nerfing popular builds forces the community to try different ones, and, trust me, there are still many, many, many OP builds in the game that don't get much spotlight. Like Penance Brand ignite, which I started ritual with, 8mill ignite dps with 10 ex gear.
The sky is the limit with this game.

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siimduud wrote:

I get why you have to nerf, but it always sucks.
Every time I finish a league and decide on the next one looking at people on youtube, researching builds to find the one to finally carry me to these OP levels - you crush my dreams. I've played over a 1000 hours now and I've yet to reach OP levels. Thats my only dream in this game, to just absolutely vaporise everything and carry 100 mirror tier stuff. But this will never happen and is always inching further away. It's gotten so far now that there is no hope in sight it will ever happen.

I kinda feel you, when you say the endgame inches away more every league. But I'm positive you can reach those levels someday if you can sacrifice enough time. (And play as intended) :)

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T0rm3nt0r wrote:

That's exactly the opposite of what's happening here. Nerfing popular builds forces the community to try different ones, and, trust me, there are still many, many, many OP builds in the game that don't get much spotlight. Like Penance Brand ignite, which I started ritual with, 8mill ignite dps with 10 ex gear.
The sky is the limit with this game.

I totally agree! I don't believe we can say that it's all over/game or league is bad by the first few days of the league! Good Post.

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laurent67 wrote:

do not panic, it is only the manifesto, in other words, a stage of psychological preparation so that you are not too shocked by the real changes brought by the patch !!
be strong tonight !! LOL.

yeah, and ggg want to prepare us for poe 2 , which will be 1 big nerf.

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IamtheAxeMan wrote:

Then satanttin, why are you attacking the way I liked to play?

Whoop i've read that wrong.

and i wasn't attacking you. was merely suggesting an easier game if the reason ur leaving was that u couldn't make a lot of currency.

Yall hate fun huh?

They started damage control. Now they started deleting comments they don't agree with. Chris Wilson talks about transparency and then people gets censoring.

If half of these changes go core i'm out.

Been playing since 2014. On and off.

Currently playing a single lvl100 character in standard only.
I dont care about leagues because i hate to pex.

Still, doesnt prevent me from doing 100% delirium maps and all the "hard content" quite easily. Mind you, i've had seven years to perfect my build.

I loved Harvest, it brought diversity and allowed meme builds to be viable thanks to relatively cheap player crafted items.

I loved 100% delirium maps. It was a nice source of currency, scarabs and stuff i basically use every day.


With all of this nerfed, there's no point playing the game anymore, especially since im not interested in the league system.

I strongly regret investing money in microtransactions.

I strongly urge new or relatively new players to NOT invest a single cent into a dying, outdated and outclassed game, and look after more recent productions instead.

A lesson well learned.

Like Ritual league they nerfed Carrions and players find a way and they was op, now they will nerf them again and i beleve they will still be good/ok to play with, but they will nerf them yet again untill they are dead, that is the way of ggg.

Exactly like zerphy flask they kept nerfing it and at the end they just totaly killed it, same go to volatile dead they kept nerfing it and found out that players always find a way arround so they also killed the skill.

At the end ggg will never ever change something they already posted or planned for, every single league they nerf good stuff and buff bad stuff to be good or balanced but guess what the bad will never be good.

Personaly i will give this league a try to see if i can find a build to have fun with, if i dont like it i leave it thats it.

Ohh i forget to say RIP miners as well, my condolences to those who thought miners was nerfed before, guess what now they are dead have fun playing Super Mario builds.

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T0rm3nt0r wrote:

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hwat wrote:

Seems you just can't allow people to have fun in this game. Every league you nerf all popular builds, providing no alternatives at all.
This manifesto is a pure shame.
You nerf golems like third time in row. You Really dont want summoners be playable, why do you keep them in game in first place?
In the past I had motivation to find a way to play summoner no matter what. Now I just completely tired of this shit. [Removed by Support] you remove all creativity and fun just by nerfing everything to the ground.

That's exactly the opposite of what's happening here. Nerfing popular builds forces the community to try different ones, and, trust me, there are still many, many, many OP builds in the game that don't get much spotlight. Like Penance Brand ignite, which I started ritual with, 8mill ignite dps with 10 ex gear.
The sky is the limit with this game.

While I agree with you, that there are a lot of ways to play PoE, players shouldn't be pushed to play the way they don't want to. For example: every league i try to build something that utilize most of new mechanics. Even if it's a gimp character. After that i create a character to farm endgame and quit league. On the other hand my friend LOVES toxic rain. And it's nerves. Again. And he is sad about that. That's just not fair.