[3.21] Cold Conversion Summoner | Build guides for all budgets | (Ghazzy Zoomancer)

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Skazz_ wrote:

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Deadandlivin wrote:

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I'd be very interested in your pob, I'm a sucker for this build, and I don't mind tinkering to find a middle ground between rippy and reapy; cod+portal op, etc.

This is how far I've come on the 3.21 League Start PoB.

https://pobb.in/KHKxIcXCqhvu

Only includes 3 arbitrary profiles for now, all for Occultist.
There's a setup for White, Yellow and Red maps.

Will add Necro profiles later.

Thanks man, that looks pretty awesome!

I've been fiddling a bit with trying to fit Dead Reckoning into a similar build (eyeing Ghazzy's Zoomancer too -- but like you said that one looks ... maybe a touch on the tanky side?), but so far no luck -- I'm either going full glass cannon or dropping dps because of dropping Zombies/physDmg, instead linking Skellies with e.g. Pierce, Spell Echo, Elemental Penetration, Controlled Destruction, and Minion Damage.

I feel like it should be doable, but my PoB Fu is weak, and it might land waaaay outside the scope of your build :)

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Deadandlivin wrote:

You mean my endgame build? I'm running an Anima Stone in it.

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Deadandlivin wrote:

What you can do is run Skelly Mages and Hyrr's Watch Spectres or Syndicate Operatives in the helm. Then link them together wtih GMP and either Chain and Fork for alot of ranged Clearspeed. I've tried it, works very well but you sacrifice a bit of Single Target dps. But the Golems + Zombies in the other sockets kinda make up for that.

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Skazz_ wrote:

Ooo, good point. Wouldn't (eventually) Anomalous Faster Projectiles for the 60% (at 20/20) chance for the projectiles to return be better for clear, though?

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Skazz_ wrote:

I'm not sure how the skelly mages' projectiles work, but if they can pierce too, that'd be one helluva clear with GMP. That being said, Chain and Fork appeal to my inner arc simp, ngl.

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Skazz_ wrote:

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Deadandlivin wrote:

What you can do is run Skelly Mages and Hyrr's Watch Spectres or Syndicate Operatives in the helm. Then link them together wtih GMP and either Chain and Fork for alot of ranged Clearspeed. I've tried it, works very well but you sacrifice a bit of Single Target dps. But the Golems + Zombies in the other sockets kinda make up for that.

Ooo, good point. Wouldn't (eventually) Anomalous Faster Projectiles for the 60% (at 20/20) chance for the projectiles to return be better for clear, though?

I read that since Operatives' projectiles pierce, the Anomalous effect won't cause the projectiles to bounce off the enemies, instead they will bounce at the end of their "trajectory" -- so each projectile has a 60% chance to hit the enemies twice. That'd be a 60% flat damage increase off the bat.

I'm not sure how the skelly mages' projectiles work, but if they can pierce too, that'd be one helluva clear with GMP. That being said, Chain and Fork appeal to my inner arc simp, ngl.

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Deadandlivin wrote:

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Mezelluf wrote:

What's up Dead, do we think our cold carrion boys will be viable and super good as usual this league with it's changes?
I skipped the last few leagues but the only way I'd come back for this one is if I was playing this exact build, hope you'll find a way and have some time to make it work! Stay safe

The build should remain super strong. Really hard to nerf or outperform it since it just stacks minions ontop of eachother for higher efficiency.

I'm not personally gonna update this forum guide this league. Will most likely do it in the future. However, GhazzyTV which is a huge buildcreator and content creator on youtube is updating this buildguide.

He's going to release a Youtube video and written guide on PoEVault.
He's naming the build the Zoomancer which is this build with some changes made streamlining the build for a wider audience.

So if you're interested in playing an updated versio of this build, check out his youtube video when he releases it.

Compared to other metaminion builds like Poison SRS I think this build is better at higher budgets but slightly weaker at lower budgets due to how ridiculous poison scaling is with low investment. Poison dmg has a cap though so poison builds usually cap out at ~35 million dps while my build well goes above the 100 million mark with investment.

I finished 3.20 with this build:
https://pobb.in/VLjyi-iTAv14

I'm probably just gonna post a 3.21 league start PoB for how I'm gonna leaguestart and call it a day. Mainly because me and Ghazzy want to leaguestart the build differently. Personally, I'm leaguestarting the build as Occultist(Did it last league) because I think Profane Bloom explosions are cheating and just make the game too easy early on. Then I swap to Necromancer when I got my explodey AG setup.

Ghazzy thinks having builds that swap ascendencies midway between budgets et.c. makes the game harder for newer and casual players and I kinda agree. So his leaguestarter is running Necro all the way and focuses more on defenses with blockcap et.c. to give his followers a smoother and less rippy experience.

I personally focus more on speed, dps and clear so I can push harder content earlier and farm currency faster to hit the endgame faster.

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Hoodinio wrote:

Hey played this build a couple times and came back to it this league and was interested that you decided to go occultist was just curious what you prio first from your lab ascendancies?

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Mezelluf wrote:

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Deadandlivin wrote:

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Mezelluf wrote:

What's up Dead, do we think our cold carrion boys will be viable and super good as usual this league with it's changes?
I skipped the last few leagues but the only way I'd come back for this one is if I was playing this exact build, hope you'll find a way and have some time to make it work! Stay safe

The build should remain super strong. Really hard to nerf or outperform it since it just stacks minions ontop of eachother for higher efficiency.

I'm not personally gonna update this forum guide this league. Will most likely do it in the future. However, GhazzyTV which is a huge buildcreator and content creator on youtube is updating this buildguide.

He's going to release a Youtube video and written guide on PoEVault.
He's naming the build the Zoomancer which is this build with some changes made streamlining the build for a wider audience.

So if you're interested in playing an updated versio of this build, check out his youtube video when he releases it.

Compared to other metaminion builds like Poison SRS I think this build is better at higher budgets but slightly weaker at lower budgets due to how ridiculous poison scaling is with low investment. Poison dmg has a cap though so poison builds usually cap out at ~35 million dps while my build well goes above the 100 million mark with investment.

I finished 3.20 with this build:
https://pobb.in/VLjyi-iTAv14

I'm probably just gonna post a 3.21 league start PoB for how I'm gonna leaguestart and call it a day. Mainly because me and Ghazzy want to leaguestart the build differently. Personally, I'm leaguestarting the build as Occultist(Did it last league) because I think Profane Bloom explosions are cheating and just make the game too easy early on. Then I swap to Necromancer when I got my explodey AG setup.

Ghazzy thinks having builds that swap ascendencies midway between budgets et.c. makes the game harder for newer and casual players and I kinda agree. So his leaguestarter is running Necro all the way and focuses more on defenses with blockcap et.c. to give his followers a smoother and less rippy experience.

I personally focus more on speed, dps and clear so I can push harder content earlier and farm currency faster to hit the endgame faster.

We all gucci, thanks for posting the new 3.21 gonna definitely start that as occultist and follow the pob, we're cold conversion autists anyway who needs def when you have dmg, i really enjoy the playstyle of just running around and playing with 2 mouse buttons and 1 keyboard button watching everything dissapear. Thanks for the work gonna check the PoB and start planning the start of the league for me, gonna keep checking the thread for updates or anything, and set up my snipe trades gonna be a long day when league starts