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Kaevar wrote:

Managed to finally craft this beauty. Cost around 4ex, my first item crafted ever in the game (2.5k hours in :D). I guess for now it will stay with Fire res craft, maybe replace it something down the road. Any suggestions?

Pretty nice craft!
If you want to take that item to the next level you'd have to Veiled Chaos orb roll and finish it with a bench craft. This however, isn't deterministic

How you would do it is like this:
1. Craft Prefixes cannot be changed.
2. Use a Veiled Chaos Orb.
3. Pick a Veiled mod, something like 25 Fire + 25 Chaos Res or whatever pops up. You get 3 options on the veiled.

By this point the only way to go forward depends on how many suffixes the Veiled Chaos Orb rolled.
If you get 2 suffixes(Veiled mod + random suffix), finish the item with a bench craft.
If you got 3 suffixes you can't do much more with the item.
If you got 1 suffix(Only veiled mod) Bench craft something and Exalted Slam it.

Another option you could opt for is multimodding the item.
But I don't think that would be worth as you would only multimod 30 dex and 28 fire res in the end either way.

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Deadandlivin wrote:

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Kaevar wrote:

Managed to finally craft this beauty. Cost around 4ex, my first item crafted ever in the game (2.5k hours in :D). I guess for now it will stay with Fire res craft, maybe replace it something down the road. Any suggestions?

Pretty nice craft!
If you want to take that item to the next level you'd have to Veiled Chaos orb roll and finish it with a bench craft. This however, isn't deterministic

How you would do it is like this:
1. Craft Prefixes cannot be changed.
2. Use a Veiled Chaos Orb.
3. Pick a Veiled mod, something like 25 Fire + 25 Chaos Res or whatever pops up. You get 3 options on the veiled.

By this point the only way to go forward depends on how many suffixes the Veiled Chaos Orb rolled.
If you get 2 suffixes(Veiled mod + random suffix), finish the item with a bench craft.
If you got 3 suffixes you can't do much more with the item.
If you got 1 suffix(Only veiled mod) Bench craft something and Exalted Slam it.

Another option you could opt for is multimodding the item.
But I don't think that would be worth as you would only multimod 30 dex and 28 fire res in the end either way.

Thx for the suggestions. If the veiled mods from veiled chaos orb are bad, is it worth maybe to use a second veiled chaos? It seems more reliable than exalt, especially since "prefixes cannot be changed" is already crafted

On another topic - Unending Hunger was a big boost for Ultimatums for me. With soo many mobs dying, the spectres get crazy fast

Can't find any amulets with ravenous horde for 2nd day in a row using live search, should I just keep this one? +20% chaos res to our minions and +30% of chaos damage extra.

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Kaevar wrote:

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Deadandlivin wrote:

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Kaevar wrote:

Managed to finally craft this beauty. Cost around 4ex, my first item crafted ever in the game (2.5k hours in :D). I guess for now it will stay with Fire res craft, maybe replace it something down the road. Any suggestions?

Pretty nice craft!
If you want to take that item to the next level you'd have to Veiled Chaos orb roll and finish it with a bench craft. This however, isn't deterministic

How you would do it is like this:
1. Craft Prefixes cannot be changed.
2. Use a Veiled Chaos Orb.
3. Pick a Veiled mod, something like 25 Fire + 25 Chaos Res or whatever pops up. You get 3 options on the veiled.

By this point the only way to go forward depends on how many suffixes the Veiled Chaos Orb rolled.
If you get 2 suffixes(Veiled mod + random suffix), finish the item with a bench craft.
If you got 3 suffixes you can't do much more with the item.
If you got 1 suffix(Only veiled mod) Bench craft something and Exalted Slam it.

Another option you could opt for is multimodding the item.
But I don't think that would be worth as you would only multimod 30 dex and 28 fire res in the end either way.

Thx for the suggestions. If the veiled mods from veiled chaos orb are bad, is it worth maybe to use a second veiled chaos? It seems more reliable than exalt, especially since "prefixes cannot be changed" is already crafted

On another topic - Unending Hunger was a big boost for Ultimatums for me. With soo many mobs dying, the spectres get crazy fast

When you use the Veiled Chaos orb the metamod will be removed.
The only way to get a second chance at a veiled craft is if your suffixes aren't filled so you can craft another Prefix cannot be changed.
So it's a gamble.

Yeah, Unending Hunger is a really good Jewel to get. Helps alot with clear speed in general when we're low/medium budget.

i have 4 spectres right now.

i have +2 wand a 7 link helmet +2 amulet and sitting at ~4k life with level 93.
1 bad cluster setup up.
my AG is also fully equiped.

its alright but i die from time to time.

i wonder if i just run 2 SO and 1 carnage 1 host chieftain. unspec the right side of the POB and gain like 8-10 extra passives.

i could equip emperors vigilance with glancing blow.
or another decent shield like sentari with extra curses
or o matu
i could get alot tankier with slightly less clearspeed and still high boss damage right?
becaus pathing to the right ist just for necromantic aegis.. and that extra jewel slot i could also get with catching up some life nodes on the left side of the tree.

https://pastebin.com/0b2SA3d1
my pob is not well calcualte. no ag on bottles etc.

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aquarose_ wrote:

Can't find any amulets with ravenous horde for 2nd day in a row using live search, should I just keep this one? +20% chaos res to our minions and +30% of chaos damage extra.

Just buy a good Amulet and annoint Ravenouz Horde on it.
When I wrote the guide it was prior to GGG nerfing Talismans.
Talismans are once again, complete garbage and not worth looking at.

You can find a ~80 life, 30-40 dex amulet with a free suffix and maybe another resistance for a couple of Chaos nowadays.
Get one of those and use x2 Opalescent and x1 Verdant Oil.

I like your ideas of running both carrions and SOs however its hard to believe u survive ultimatums with just flasks and glancing (on 4k ehp) while running both necro aegis and not running bone + mistress.
I've been running a tanky setup with bone and capped spellblock (no necro aegis) i do all ultimatums np (even under delirium) however im kinda struggling with damage - its starting to lack esp for single target (even tho i have SOs shotgunning with woke gmp). Addin a 6l carrion setup to boost boss clears seems like a great idea.

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sickneZz_ wrote:

i have 4 spectres right now.

i have +2 wand a 7 link helmet +2 amulet and sitting at ~4k life with level 93.
1 bad cluster setup up.
my AG is also fully equiped.

its alright but i die from time to time.

i wonder if i just run 2 SO and 1 carnage 1 host chieftain. unspec the right side of the POB and gain like 8-10 extra passives.

i could equip emperors vigilance with glancing blow.
or another decent shield like sentari with extra curses
or o matu
i could get alot tankier with slightly less clearspeed and still high boss damage right?
becaus pathing to the right ist just for necromantic aegis.. and that extra jewel slot i could also get with catching up some life nodes on the left side of the tree.

https://pastebin.com/0b2SA3d1
my pob is not well calcualte. no ag on bottles etc.

You could try running with a shield.
You shouldn't split the spectres up however.
Host and Carnage Chieftains require Lifetap support or they run OOM and can't provide charges. It's just not worth it.
A better option if you want to run with a shield is to get a Prism Guardian and just run without Charges for your minions.

Look up the updated PoBs for the medium budget version.
It already runs Glancing Blows with Rumis + Evasion Flask for ALOT of additional survivability.
If you get Mistress of Sacrifice + Bone Offering you can reach block cap while still using Necromantic Aegis which is what I'm currently experimenting with.
The increased survivability is very noticable.

You can read about it in:
XVI. Additional Information > Alterante Defensive Setup

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Deadandlivin wrote:

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sickneZz_ wrote:

i have 4 spectres right now.

i have +2 wand a 7 link helmet +2 amulet and sitting at ~4k life with level 93.
1 bad cluster setup up.
my AG is also fully equiped.

its alright but i die from time to time.

i wonder if i just run 2 SO and 1 carnage 1 host chieftain. unspec the right side of the POB and gain like 8-10 extra passives.

i could equip emperors vigilance with glancing blow.
or another decent shield like sentari with extra curses
or o matu
i could get alot tankier with slightly less clearspeed and still high boss damage right?
becaus pathing to the right ist just for necromantic aegis.. and that extra jewel slot i could also get with catching up some life nodes on the left side of the tree.

https://pastebin.com/0b2SA3d1
my pob is not well calcualte. no ag on bottles etc.

You could try running with a shield.
You shouldn't split the spectres up however.
Host and Carnage Chieftains require Lifetap support or they run OOM and can't provide charges. It's just not worth it.
A better option if you want to run with a shield is to get a Prism Guardian and just run without Charges for your minions.

Look up the updated PoBs for the medium budget version.
It already runs Glancing Blows with Rumis + Evasion Flask for ALOT of additional survivability.
If you get Mistress of Sacrifice + Bone Offering you can reach block cap while still using Necromantic Aegis which is what I'm currently experimenting with.
The increased survivability is very noticable.

You can read about it in:
XVI. Additional Information > Alterante Defensive Setup

did u also try queens hunger? there are some good mods on it and u dont need to go mistress of sacrifice.

i found one with 38% ailment avoidance 40% stun avoidance + cold and chaos resitance. and one with 34 dex and strength + 9% attack block chance.

i think scaling damage further is obsolete when u down a8 sirius without even casting his maze because i instant phase him right now

did u also try queens hunger? there are some good mods on it and u dont need to go mistress of sacrifice.

i found one with 38% ailment avoidance 40% stun avoidance + cold and chaos resitance. and one with 34 dex and strength + 9% attack block chance.

i think scaling damage further is obsolete when u down a8 sirius without even casting his maze because i instant phase him right now[/quote]

Didn't see that chest, never seen it before. It actually looks really solid.

The reason we scale dmg further in high budget builds isn't to kill Sirus Faster though. He's basically a nonfactor in the low budget version.
It's to run end game content like 100% delirius and The Feared invitations where ridiculous dps numbers are required.
That being said, endgame is pretty garbage in this leauge so I completely approve of running a more defensive setup when mapping.

That chest in particular looks really promising as it allows us use Frost Bomb in trigger wnad or run Awakened Hextouch for +1 Curse so we can use corrupted Triad Grips with EW.