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Oh could be, I thought they were ranged spectres since I understand for Crushclaws you would use almost same links as Carrion (multi, melee phys, etc). But yes, even those links technically would work for Crushclaws (Minion Damage, Predator, Damage on Full Life, Hypothermia, Phantasms)

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Mezelluf wrote:

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blackspiral wrote:

Anyone knows which spectre was he using on his char from last league ?

I'm pretty sure he was using 4x Crushclaws, or 3x Crushclaws and 1 SO.


I switched from 4x SO to 4x Crushclaws when i reached high maps and for bossing, and they never die and the clearspeed is still great.

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blackspiral wrote:

Oh could be, I thought they were ranged spectres since I understand for Crushclaws you would use almost same links as Carrion (multi, melee phys, etc). But yes, even those links technically would work for Crushclaws (Minion Damage, Predator, Damage on Full Life, Hypothermia, Phantasms)

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Mezelluf wrote:

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blackspiral wrote:

Anyone knows which spectre was he using on his char from last league ?

I'm pretty sure he was using 4x Crushclaws, or 3x Crushclaws and 1 SO.


I switched from 4x SO to 4x Crushclaws when i reached high maps and for bossing, and they never die and the clearspeed is still great.

Well I'm trying to figure things out and stich information from his old build and the *new* budget build, but atm i have

Spectre(Crushclaw)-Zombie-Melee Splash-Multistrike-Feeding Frenzy-Minion DMG < in my armor

Carrion Golem-Vaal Skelletons-Multistrike-Increased Critical DMG in my helm (I have 20 Minion dmg option on it) everything seems to be going smooth for me right now.

I feel like the AG explosions from the Inpulsa also help with clearspeed.

Did the basic bosses and Maven 4th invitation without issues haven't even gem swapped.

https://pastebin.com/jAQrQjs3

This is an old low budget PoB from 3.16 pre change

https://pastebin.com/gRezbePe

Mid budget no Cluster

https://pastebin.com/54p4bcNr

Mid Budget 1 Cluster

Are Crabs still the best spectres if the cold damage increase is 'only' 20% rather than 50%?

Thanks :)

Okay.. I need to get something straight as it seems info is all over the place.


Melee Spectres (or bossing)

1. Primal Crushclaw
these are the only ones that matter for bossing. Nothing rivals it's power.


Ranged Spectres (or clearing)

1. Frost Auto Scouts
These are our first ranged spectres. They don't scale well because they can't crit.

2. Hyrri's Watch
When are these used and how are they different from SO's?

3. Syndicate Operatives
When are these used and how are they different from Hyrri's?



Also please add any recommended spectres that I haven't mentioned.

Anybody have a trick or tip for powerful harbinger boss? He kills my golems in seconds ...

We all asked for spectres details, and there is no answer. So I can post my opinion after testing. Actually you have to test it yourself to check if it fits to your playstyle, etc.
For me, I ended up with Primal Crushclaw as spectre:
1. Spectre is tanky
2. Nice damage to a single target
3. Clear is ok, in juiced maps there are many rares and tanky mobs anyway.
4. You can combine it with zombies, to free links(actual for this build), also feeding frenzy on the same links to make it aggressive(a lot of difference during mapping)

Keep in mind that with "victario's charity" you don't have power charges on bosses, so when you check gems in pob, disable "Minions have power charges", so you can fit the best gem for bossing dps.

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Knuddelbearli wrote:

Anybody have a trick or tip for powerful harbinger boss? He kills my golems in seconds ...

Golems never die. Please check that you have the following sources of sustain:
1. Minion defense mastery - "Minions recover 5% of life on Minion Death"
2. Cluster jewel with: "Feasting fiends" - Minions leach 0.4% damage as life
3. Cluster jewel with: "Renewal" - Minions regenerate 1% of life per second
4. You have a passive "Indomitable army"
5. Your golem level is at least 26+

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Converge57 wrote:

Are Crabs still the best spectres if the cold damage increase is 'only' 20% rather than 50%?

Thanks :)

Are you talking about Primal Crushclaws? Why would it only be 20%?

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kayella wrote:

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Deadandlivin wrote:

Primal Crushclaw for the 50% increased cold damage taken screech it does which is invaluable for single target.

Hey Dead, we've confirmed it's actually 20% not 50%. Confirmed by Viperesque and will be added in new POB version.

https://github.com/PathOfBuildingCommunity/PathOfBuilding/pull/3932

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