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You need to get +2 wand asap. If you can, with Hatred effect and minion damage.
The wand will buff all minions. Helm only affect half of them.
Got that now :
Will av 2 try wand +2 +8sec cd.
Is that not going to affect dps badly - BV triggers frostbite and EE?
Hows Molten shell comparing to bone barrier?
Could swap bone barrier to mistress ov sacrifice for some more dps and inc duration to make BV any closer to 8 sec. Or that cluster(inc duration) in tree centre would be enuf?
Thanx :>
Last edited by konop88#2409 on Nov 30, 2021, 8:33:10 PM
It depends on how efficient you are at farming.
If you're farming pretty fast doing content like Simulcrums or Blight Ravaged maps(Super profitable) you'll be racking up money fast and I try to mirror the BiS helm. It's super expensive though and might be out of reach for many of you.
More realistically though, in your case I would at 3 primary major upgrades:
1. Awakened Multistrike
2. Assassin's Mark Ring
3. New Boots. You should look into getting Fugitive Boots with Chaos Res, Spell Supression, High life. You want to Aisling Slam 30% movement speed with Chill immunity and craft Freeze immunity on them aswell.
This opens you up to change Pantheon.
If you've maybe missed it, you want to use 1 Carnage, 1 Host Chieftain and 2 Crabs for your spectres. This gives you permanent 3 Charges on all minions, skeletons included which is massive.
Thanks so much! I'm actually farming simulacrums pretty well, it's actually insane how profitable they are. I had a question about them, however. How important do you think taunt is for them? Because I don't have a jewel slot on my belt, I've been basically trying out taking away sublime form and slotting in an abyss jewel with taunt and dropping tempest shield OR taking a bunch of life nodes out and mapping to the other cluster jewel slot for the extra jewel slot. I can pretty consistently make it to 28-30 simulacrum doing this...but wondering if maybe there's a better way?
Yeah, hydrosphere feels pretty bad. You only want to use it when you really need it. The cast is pretty slow too.
You should get Anomalous which gives it more cast speed. You can def feel the difference. Hydrosphere only really feels good when you have Flesh Offering active with increased cast speed.
If you don't have a Taunt Jewel in your belt yet, you should get one. It will help keeping bosses in place so you don't have to recast it 24/7.
The additional buttons can be troublesome.
In general what you look to do against bosses is:
1. Press Skeletons 3 times ontop of boss or before a boss spawns
2. Press Hydrosphere ontop of boss or where boss will spawn
3. Apply EE and Curses with your BV.
Only cast Hydrosphere if a boss is standing still and being controlled by your minions. Don't bother with it if the boss is running around and kiting you et.c.
Run skeletons and Golems in chest. Use Awk Minion dmg, Splash, Multistrike and Awk Melee phys (Skip empower). If your golems are squishy, replace multistrike with empower.
Zombies and Spectres in helm supported by FF and Splash.
Do you have all defenses for Sims? Like 72% spell block, 38k armour and 19k evasion et.c.? Also, are you ignite immune and freeze immune? It's very important.
Thanks a lot, I get all the things you mentions except for the sim defenses which I have only with flasks up. And I am not 100% ignite immune (got smth like 75)
Bosses in sims are not really a problem (bosses in general are not, I finally managed to kill Sirus twice in a row xd), but I just die to random monsters when I try to manage all the buttons I need to press
Yeah, hydrosphere feels pretty bad. You only want to use it when you really need it. The cast is pretty slow too.
You should get Anomalous which gives it more cast speed. You can def feel the difference. Hydrosphere only really feels good when you have Flesh Offering active with increased cast speed.
If you don't have a Taunt Jewel in your belt yet, you should get one. It will help keeping bosses in place so you don't have to recast it 24/7.
The additional buttons can be troublesome.
In general what you look to do against bosses is:
1. Press Skeletons 3 times ontop of boss or before a boss spawns
2. Press Hydrosphere ontop of boss or where boss will spawn
3. Apply EE and Curses with your BV.
Only cast Hydrosphere if a boss is standing still and being controlled by your minions. Don't bother with it if the boss is running around and kiting you et.c.
Run skeletons and Golems in chest. Use Awk Minion dmg, Splash, Multistrike and Awk Melee phys (Skip empower). If your golems are squishy, replace multistrike with empower.
Zombies and Spectres in helm supported by FF and Splash.
Do you have all defenses for Sims? Like 72% spell block, 38k armour and 19k evasion et.c.? Also, are you ignite immune and freeze immune? It's very important.
Thanks a lot, I get all the things you mentions except for the sim defenses which I have only with flasks up. And I am not 100% ignite immune (got smth like 75)
Bosses in sims are not really a problem (bosses in general are not, I finally managed to kill Sirus twice in a row xd), but I just die to random monsters when I try to manage all the buttons I need to press
Easy solution:
Don't press all those buttons when killing random monsters :)
They're not needed. When I'm mapping I barely ever press Skeletons or Hydrosphere. VS Map bosses I press Hydrosphere on boss, run into him and press Convocation. Against things like Blights/Rituals/Legion's et.c. I press Vaal Skellies and just run around in circles. Those things are only really needed vs tanky bosses like Sirus or Guardians et.c. While just clearing, just focus on running around dodging stuff trying pressing dash and convocate on big monster packs for Inpulsa Explosions.
You REALLY should Numlock Molten Shell btw. You'll never go back after doing it. It's super simple to do.
Against "harder" bosses like Guardians and Conquerors I press Skeleton 3 times on top of boss -> Run into him and convocate -> Press Hydrosphere if he's still standing.
You need to get +2 wand asap. If you can, with Hatred effect and minion damage.
The wand will buff all minions. Helm only affect half of them.
Got that now :
Will av 2 try wand +2 +8sec cd.
Is that not going to affect dps badly - BV triggers frostbite and EE?
Hows Molten shell comparing to bone barrier?
Could swap bone barrier to mistress ov sacrifice for some more dps and inc duration to make BV any closer to 8 sec. Or that cluster(inc duration) in tree centre would be enuf?
Thanx :>
You need trigger aswell obviously :-)
I just sold my old wand (+2, 37% minion dmg, 33% hatred, Trigger) for 11 ex so they shouldn't be too bad to get. My friend sold the same type of wand for 8 ex cause no buyers.
Molten Shell is much stronger than bone barrier.
My Molten Shell Absorbs 6800 damage with Basalt Flask. That's more than 3 times as much as Bone Barrier. With Mistress it also lasts for 6.1 seconds for me, Vaal Molten Shell lasts 18.3 sec and literally makes me unkillable.
Mistress also gives you either movement speed or alot of Block aswell. It's superior. The only value I see in Bone Armour is the 20% minion life in case you struggle with minion survivability.
It depends on how efficient you are at farming.
If you're farming pretty fast doing content like Simulcrums or Blight Ravaged maps(Super profitable) you'll be racking up money fast and I try to mirror the BiS helm. It's super expensive though and might be out of reach for many of you.
More realistically though, in your case I would at 3 primary major upgrades:
1. Awakened Multistrike
2. Assassin's Mark Ring
3. New Boots. You should look into getting Fugitive Boots with Chaos Res, Spell Supression, High life. You want to Aisling Slam 30% movement speed with Chill immunity and craft Freeze immunity on them aswell.
This opens you up to change Pantheon.
If you've maybe missed it, you want to use 1 Carnage, 1 Host Chieftain and 2 Crabs for your spectres. This gives you permanent 3 Charges on all minions, skeletons included which is massive.
Thanks so much! I'm actually farming simulacrums pretty well, it's actually insane how profitable they are. I had a question about them, however. How important do you think taunt is for them? Because I don't have a jewel slot on my belt, I've been basically trying out taking away sublime form and slotting in an abyss jewel with taunt and dropping tempest shield OR taking a bunch of life nodes out and mapping to the other cluster jewel slot for the extra jewel slot. I can pretty consistently make it to 28-30 simulacrum doing this...but wondering if maybe there's a better way?
Thank you again!
Hard to say since I don't own a Mageblood yet.
I kill Kosis and Omnophobia in ~3 seconds so I don't really need a Taunt Jewel. The longer they live, the more valuable it is to you.
I don't think it's worth Dropping Tempest Shield for Taunt Jewel however.
If anything, if you really want the Taunt Jewel, I would look at getting the Jewel slot next ot "Shaper".
If you remove the Cluster at the right and the whole Tireless/Sanctuary stuff(Resistances shouldn't be a problem for you with Mageblood) you can instead connect the tree from NA to Shaper and pick up constitution for more life.
Removing all those points saves you 12 skill points and all you lose is 6% spell block (I NEED Sanctuary for resistances currently so I gotta run it)
You get the free socket, 1.7% life regen, 40% mana regen aswell as 25% increased life and 20 maximum life.
Easy solution:
Don't press all those buttons when killing random monsters :)
They're not needed. When I'm mapping I barely ever press Skeletons or Hydrosphere. VS Map bosses I press Hydrosphere on boss, run into him and press Convocation. Against things like Blights/Rituals/Legion's et.c. I press Vaal Skellies and just run around in circles. Those things are only really needed vs tanky bosses like Sirus or Guardians et.c. While just clearing, just focus on running around dodging stuff trying pressing dash and convocate on big monster packs for Inpulsa Explosions.
You REALLY should Numlock Molten Shell btw. You'll never go back after doing it. It's super simple to do.
Against "harder" bosses like Guardians and Conquerors I press Skeleton 3 times on top of boss -> Run into him and convocate -> Press Hydrosphere if he's still standing.
Conquerors melt in seconds with the sphere since they are like the only bosses who stand still long enough to die xd
Guardians are also easy but usually I die a couple of times in Hydra/Minotaur/Eradicator
The only problem seems to be the simulacrum :)
Just tried another sim. Lost all portals to wave 21, just got oneshot 5 times by some ranged mobs.
Doublechecked the defenses - I got only 20k armor with flasks up not counting molet shell.
I got determination, rumi, % armor flask and some nodes in the tree. What am I missing to get 40k?
Easy solution:
Don't press all those buttons when killing random monsters :)
They're not needed. When I'm mapping I barely ever press Skeletons or Hydrosphere. VS Map bosses I press Hydrosphere on boss, run into him and press Convocation. Against things like Blights/Rituals/Legion's et.c. I press Vaal Skellies and just run around in circles. Those things are only really needed vs tanky bosses like Sirus or Guardians et.c. While just clearing, just focus on running around dodging stuff trying pressing dash and convocate on big monster packs for Inpulsa Explosions.
You REALLY should Numlock Molten Shell btw. You'll never go back after doing it. It's super simple to do.
Against "harder" bosses like Guardians and Conquerors I press Skeleton 3 times on top of boss -> Run into him and convocate -> Press Hydrosphere if he's still standing.
Conquerors melt in seconds with the sphere since they are like the only bosses who stand still long enough to die xd
Guardians are also easy but usually I die a couple of times in Hydra/Minotaur/Eradicator
The only problem seems to be the simulacrum :)
Just tried another sim. Lost all portals to wave 21, just got oneshot 5 times by some ranged mobs.
Doublechecked the defenses - I got only 20k armor with flasks up not counting molet shell.
I got determination, rumi, % armor flask and some nodes in the tree. What am I missing to get 40k?
20k with Rumi's and %armour flask? Something is wrong. Are you checking this in game? Your POB could be missing something...
I don't think he's missing anything, those are my numbers as well, determination, rumi's, tortoise flask, and 20k eva with grace and jade flask.
Unless, of course, I'm missing something as well :)