[3.21] Cold Conversion Summoner | Build guides for all budgets | (Ghazzy Zoomancer)
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Deadandlivin wrote:
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Jennyfer9270 wrote:
The Poeb seems sketchy.
You have 2 Chest pieces actived??
Enemy has taken Fire damage ???
Power & Frenzy Charges you have to make 2 since you not on maximum.
Boss Sirius for real dps.
And i guess there is much more
1. You need to have two chest pieces activated to simulate Phantasms dps.
If you know how to get phantasm dps to show without running two chest, please tell me how.
2. The wand I use in the PoB has Fire damage to spells. BV is a spell.
3. I always simulate my PoBs for mapping circumstances since it's a mapping build predominantly.
If you want to check for Sirus dps, then simply remove the power charges and put target as Sirus.
Victario's give 3 frenzy and 3 power charges.
Sorry maybe I had to say Im looking at the Intermediate Budget POEB
There you dont have Fire damage on Wand, and only 2 charges on your shield.
Im not trying to be rude but people are not interested in mapping dps, everyone can map easily. its all about boss dps =)
So we uncheck Fire damage, we uncheck Frozen since Sirius cant be Frozen.
We change Power & Frenzy to 2 maximum
In your Boots you have 5Link, so we uncheck Awakened Unbound Aliments too.
Minions have Unholy might we uncheck too. not sure where you would get that from, correct me if Im wrong.
Unchecking the Body Armour with 11 spectres. since phantasm dont get all the link dps boost. I dont know how to calculate the dps of them too. but im sure they wont add 30million dps =)
So the more real DPS of this build is arund 19Million instead of 83Million DPS
Unchecking the Body Armour with 11 spectres. since phantasm dont get all the link dps boost. I dont know how to calculate the dps of them too. but im sure they wont add 30million dps =)
Where are you getting that from? I clearly see them shooting 5 projectiles when i add gmp to my chest, so why wouldn't they get bonuses from other supports?
You have 2 Chest pieces actived??
Enemy has taken Fire damage ???
Power & Frenzy Charges you have to make 2 since you not on maximum.
Boss Sirius for real dps.
And i guess there is much more
I too had a hard time following the POB's. The gear and links don't match up. Lot of questions on this guide for me.
If you have any questions, then ask them here and I will answer them.
I made the PoBs the day before league released so there might be some errors in it but there's no bad faith involved. The PoBs were made the same day as the Community fork released the new version. In that version alot of things were buggy, for example the -8% ele res mastery and Skin of the Loyal Keystone anoints didn't work so had to put them in manually.
I haven't updated the PoBs since then.
You've answered a few of mine already. I'm having a hard time getting enough strength/dex for Clayshaper among other things. I'm using Carnage Heart for now, but without it I don't have enough strength without getting Strength from somewhere else for the levelling build.
You have 2 Chest pieces actived??
Enemy has taken Fire damage ???
Power & Frenzy Charges you have to make 2 since you not on maximum.
Boss Sirius for real dps.
And i guess there is much more
1. You need to have two chest pieces activated to simulate Phantasms dps.
If you know how to get phantasm dps to show without running two chest, please tell me how.
2. The wand I use in the PoB has Fire damage to spells. BV is a spell.
3. I always simulate my PoBs for mapping circumstances since it's a mapping build predominantly.
If you want to check for Sirus dps, then simply remove the power charges and put target as Sirus.
Victario's give 3 frenzy and 3 power charges.
Sorry maybe I had to say Im looking at the Intermediate Budget POEB
There you dont have Fire damage on Wand, and only 2 charges on your shield.
Im not trying to be rude but people are not interested in mapping dps, everyone can map easily. its all about boss dps =)
So we uncheck Fire damage, we uncheck Frozen since Sirius cant be Frozen.
We change Power & Frenzy to 2 maximum
In your Boots you have 5Link, so we uncheck Awakened Unbound Aliments too.
Minions have Unholy might we uncheck too. not sure where you would get that from, correct me if Im wrong.
Unchecking the Body Armour with 11 spectres. since phantasm dont get all the link dps boost. I dont know how to calculate the dps of them too. but im sure they wont add 30million dps =)
So the more real DPS of this build is arund 19Million instead of 83Million DPS
You're not trying to be rude, but you sound very rude to me.
I made the intermediate version by just copying the medium one and adding some new items to it. Configurations followed, that's why frenzy and power charges were ticked in. I made 7 PoBs that day so there might be errors. I put the least amount of effort into the intermediate one because I needed to get leveling, low budget and medium budget out first since I had to redesign the entire build. Thanks for pointing out that Frnezy and Power charges shouldn't be ticked in. It was a remnant from having it ticked in from Victario's Charity in the 6 previous builds before it.
I'm interested in mapping dps because I use my build to farm maps. This is the standard I've set since I design my builds to simulate the damage I do when farming 100% delirius maps. If you want to check for Sirus dps, you're free to change the configurations to match sirus dps.
To apply EE the build gets elemental damage from some source.
Usually this is from benchcrafting fire & lightning damage on the ring.
I forgot to craft it on this ring and crafted life instead. Honest misstake.
As said, if you want to check for Sirus dps, then check for Sirus dps.
Thanks for pointing out the boot link. Used to run Unbound Ailments and Bonechill with Skitterbots but had to remove one of them to make room for Determination. Forgot to uncheck Unbound.
Minions won't have Unholy might on Sirus. They will have it while mapping though.
Phantasms get benefits from support gems.
You do know that there is a Phantasm build that uses the item Soulwrest right? Are you telling me that the support gems used in Soulwrest don't work on Phantasms? =)=)=)=)=)=)=)
You've answered a few of mine already. I'm having a hard time getting enough strength/dex for Clayshaper among other things. I'm using Carnage Heart for now, but without it I don't have enough strength without getting Strength from somewhere else for the levelling build.
If you got some chaos to spare you can always run an Astramentis early on and it solves all attribute issues while leveling.
Getting strength was an issue during the leveling process. You can always pick practical applications from the leveling tree and always use a Heavy Belt base. That's what I did and it worked out. Dexterity is a bigger problem though and I suggest simply leaving your mobility gems underleveled until you get better gear.
Since majority of the entire guide is outddated I put this at the top of the page:
The guide is massive and will take days to edit.
I will re-edit the guide closer to the end of the league. Currently I want to focus on playing it.
If you miss the top messege it's unfortunate, but all info you need are in the new PoBs and in the spoiler on the top.
Everything below is outddated and does not apply to 3.16.
I feel this is an issue with many (extensive) build guides. They only update the specific league stuff while leaving a bunch of outdated info that only serves to confuse people.
I can understand that it's a lot to update, but I would prefer a shorter (and more precise and up-to-date) guide to a big enveloping one that's hard to navigate and much of the info is wrong (and you can trim a lot of the "fluff" text for easier readability if you'd like).
Love the build although I havn't been able to play much this league due to being away most of the time.
Last edited by LUXEdeJUNK#4309 on Nov 5, 2021, 5:21:20 PM
Just wanted to say something since I saw some guy trashing the POB and going hard at the huide. I played this build in standard pre patch and got to the high budget tier of this build. Deadandlivin is not misleading anyone here. His POB might need slight adjusting but it was a very strong build in mapping and eventually bossing.
With this build I beat for the 1st time Sirus 9, Mavin, and every every endgame boss I had access to. The patch made us adjust and he is still testing everything out. This mostly affected defenses amd the offenses are there but you just need to gear up to get the DPS.
This league is really tough with survivability. I expect people are pushing the build too hard b/c mapping is really good. Scourge with 150+ is rippy and 1 shots are going to happen this league.
I expect to have zero DPS concerns once I get 7 link helm, +2 wand, +2/+2 shield, +2 amulet, and proper gems (only awakened gem I think really matters is melee phys for intimidate). With these items I expect to basicay insta kill or insta phase every boss. Its how it was last time I build this character and I think the offense is just as strong.
Last edited by Doritheexplorer17#1498 on Nov 5, 2021, 5:26:17 PM
Hi, I'm wondering where to progress from here? I recently purchased
And I'm thinking about converting from SOs to Primal Crushclaws. I'm also in the middle of crafting my +2/+2 Brittle shield. Feels like this league it is hard to maintain good offense with survivability especially.
How is your experience with Crushclaws versus SOs for now? Does less clearspeed but better single target seem worth it to you from all the tests?
Survivability is fine.
I'm 97 from solo playing maps and delve.
Crabs clearspeed is also very good. I run Awakened Melee splash on them. Together with Inpulsa on AG and Fearsome force for 60% bigger AoE the clearspeed is actually insane with crabs too.
Thanks for the reply. Do you recommend 3B 2R 1G Skin of the Lords so far for Crushclaws or do you think 3B 3R is better overall? For both bossing and mapping.
Hi, I'm wondering where to progress from here? I recently purchased
And I'm thinking about converting from SOs to Primal Crushclaws. I'm also in the middle of crafting my +2/+2 Brittle shield. Feels like this league it is hard to maintain good offense with survivability especially.
How is your experience with Crushclaws versus SOs for now? Does less clearspeed but better single target seem worth it to you from all the tests?
Survivability is fine.
I'm 97 from solo playing maps and delve.
Crabs clearspeed is also very good. I run Awakened Melee splash on them. Together with Inpulsa on AG and Fearsome force for 60% bigger AoE the clearspeed is actually insane with crabs too.
Thanks for the reply. Do you recommend 3B 2R 1G Skin of the Lords so far for Crushclaws or do you think 3B 3R is better overall? For both bossing and mapping.
I think 3b-3r will be best as it allows us to run 4 Awakened Gems with high throughput.
Finally upgraded my wand that I bought from character that had name like OP has account name
I paid my arm and leg for this, got 0 currency now not single chaos orb, i really wanted it because it allows use of Tyrant crown with cold damage without worrying about screwing things up with elemental notable for when i eventually switch to that from unwavering stance. So I think with this "krangle" it will hold its value pretty well.
Now i will grind chaos orbs and eventually get nice helm, would it be cheaper on average to craft the helm myself? 7 to 20ex for it seems like a lot of money.
Cost for the bone helm base is like 4ex with the influences
so basically how realistic is to fossil craft it, or perhaps just awaken slam it for cheaper than it is sold at?
Should I not test my luck and just save up for it? Tell me your experiences about that.
I wanted to buy this wand yesterday night for 20ex, it was listed for that, but the seller was afk and I had to call it a day and went to bed. FML and cheers to you :)
