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I noted some people with an elder item that has sockets minion damage as a mod, also socket the minion damage gem in the helmet. Does that work? Is one not cancelled out as you essentially have the same gem twice?

Curious to know.
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Deadandlivin wrote:
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nico5051 wrote:
I can't find any artissan on smuggler den, is it rng?


We're past day 1 now so use Syndicate Operatives instead.
You can find Syndicate Operatives by going into /global 6666 and asking for the spectres there.

Someone kind will invite you after which you go to their hideout and cast "Desecrate" on the ground there.
From there, you will be able to raise the spectres.


I asked You twice for SO sharing cause nobody actually answers in 6666, and they died instantly in league mechanic. Besides for some reason I can't get them via desecrate after they died, so now I'm using demon harpies from scourge, fells ok for acts. What did I mess up with SO and desecrate?
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nico5051 wrote:


I asked You twice for SO sharing cause nobody actually answers in 6666, and they died instantly in league mechanic. Besides for some reason I can't get them via desecrate after they died, so now I'm using demon harpies from scourge, fells ok for acts. What did I mess up with SO and desecrate?


If you enter a new zone (that isn't your hideout) with no spectres, it overwrites the spectre pool and you lose your ability to desecrate them.
Last edited by Melonmonkey#1208 on Oct 26, 2021, 4:05:13 AM
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Deadandlivin wrote:
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hamstereater wrote:
why arent we running EDWA anymore?


We're using it on Carrions still.

Can't use it on spectres because it doesn't work on Phantasms since they use spells.


Is there anything I can put in a red slot on my skin of the loyal that DOES work with phantasms?
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IcedInferno007 wrote:
I noted some people with an elder item that has sockets minion damage as a mod, also socket the minion damage gem in the helmet. Does that work? Is one not cancelled out as you essentially have the same gem twice?

Curious to know.


Only one support with the highest level will be used (at least that's how pob calculates it). So if you have a helmet with lvl 16 minion damage and a lvl 20 minion damage support socketed, only the lvl 20 support will count.


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imilenin wrote:

I asked You twice for SO sharing cause nobody actually answers in 6666, and they died instantly in league mechanic. Besides for some reason I can't get them via desecrate after they died, so now I'm using demon harpies from scourge, fells ok for acts. What did I mess up with SO and desecrate?


It seems like there were some hideout changes, so the hideout does not "remember" your spectres anymore after you leave it. For leveling I feel like the best spectres are slave drivers, since they are pretty strong and very easy to resummon (go to control blocks, desecrate a few times - done).
If you notice your spectres dying a lot during leveling, don't bother with them. Constantly resummoning them just slows you down a lot.
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Melonmonkey wrote:
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nico5051 wrote:


I asked You twice for SO sharing cause nobody actually answers in 6666, and they died instantly in league mechanic. Besides for some reason I can't get them via desecrate after they died, so now I'm using demon harpies from scourge, fells ok for acts. What did I mess up with SO and desecrate?


If you enter a new zone (that isn't your hideout) with no spectres, it overwrites the spectre pool and you lose your ability to desecrate them.


Don't understand how it forks now. My fist specter was some random skeleton (I missclicked while summoning SO) And now when any specters are alive - I can get form desecrate both skeleton and the specters I use. If the specters die - I can only get the skeletons despite that I never actually summoned them after the first time. How should I fix it?
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imilenin wrote:
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Melonmonkey wrote:
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nico5051 wrote:


I asked You twice for SO sharing cause nobody actually answers in 6666, and they died instantly in league mechanic. Besides for some reason I can't get them via desecrate after they died, so now I'm using demon harpies from scourge, fells ok for acts. What did I mess up with SO and desecrate?


If you enter a new zone (that isn't your hideout) with no spectres, it overwrites the spectre pool and you lose your ability to desecrate them.


Don't understand how it forks now. My fist specter was some random skeleton (I missclicked while summoning SO) And now when any specters are alive - I can get form desecrate both skeleton and the specters I use. If the specters die - I can only get the skeletons despite that I never actually summoned them after the first time. How should I fix it?


Please watch a video on youtube on this, it is actually pretty easier to watch than to explain. I did a spectre bank and leveled another char to lvl28. Takes an hour and you will not lose your SO spectres anymore.
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Deadandlivin wrote:
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Its_OP wrote:
I have been running juiced (corrupted, War among the stars watchstone, 100+ quant, Shaper's scarab) T14-16 maps for pretty much the whole day today (few hours, which I could've spent on PoE). The main source of my deaths were either chaos dmg monsters (Al-Hezmin's packs, spiders in Spider Lair etc.) or random oneshots from Scourge (80+ stacks become rippy AF). I were really surprised that I were able to even run these maps in my hobo-gear setup and underleveled gems. The build has definitely become stronger in 3.16.

I am thinking about gearing my AG as the next investment priority. Can't wait to explode huge packs.


Should try to get a +3 lvl, minion damage support helm like I have.
It's actually insane how much it improves the build. Costs like 100c for a decent one with Life which absolutely is worth it.

Your neck also seems decent and worthy of an annoint. Get Death Attunement and it saves you 7 skill points which you can specc into jewel slots and more life.
Even if you can't afford Primordial Mights, just buy 3 Emminences(1 will go to Anima Stone Vendor Recipe) and put it in.
It'll give 60% attack speed to carrions and a crapton of bonus damage to spectres/phantasms due to the increased buff effect.


Yeah, I've been thinking about making the Jewel setup, however Mights at the moment are overpriced AF. Especially when I have an another solo-target source and I'm not so relied on Golems.
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IcedInferno007 wrote:
I noted some people with an elder item that has sockets minion damage as a mod, also socket the minion damage gem in the helmet. Does that work? Is one not cancelled out as you essentially have the same gem twice?

Curious to know.


Holy crap! That's me haha...
No, the gems don't stack.
I swapped my helm yesterday and completely forgot to change my gems.
You just increased the damage of my carrion golems by 50%, thank you :)
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PCGamer1009 wrote:
Which pantheons are used now with the changes to how they work?


It depends.
I currently use Brine King and Abarreth for Freeze immune and 60% ignite reduction.

Soul of Lunaris is the best Major Pantheon because it stops chaining which randomly kills us at times. But I really want Freeze immunity first.

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