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IkarusRDS wrote:


Hello guys,

1. About EE, I need to have fire + lighting damage to proc EE or "only" fire or "only" lighting ?

2. Is there any way I can proc my EE without having to use the above method ? I saw some people mentioning that they use Unbound Aliments + Skitterbots to proc EE effect. (I didn't quite understand this part)

3. I'm pretty confused about the jewels in the skill tree, I currently have 2 large cluster + 4 medium cluster + 4 Ghastly Eye (2 per cluster) + 1 Primordial Might + 1 Primordial Eminence + 1 The Anima Stone, this is correct, or am I using something out of date ?

4. We used the Stone Golem in our build, wouldn't it be more interesting to replace it with another Carrion Golem? Also we would save a slot on the ring.

5. My Wand has a 4 second cooldown, so I don't need to use Inc. Duration, what do you suggest to put in its place ?

Finally, I think that's it, I still have many doubts, hehehehe.

Thank you all !

1 and 5) I would recommend trying to use something like "Divergent Storm Brand", "Anomalous OOS", "Flesh Offering" in the trigger setup. Mana may be a problem, can be fixed by "mana cost of non-channeling" craft on your rings or amulet. Talking about EE in general, you can hit an enemy by whatever combination of elements, unless your damaging one is among them.
2) We use UA for Skitterbots to increase effects of Shock (inc damage taken by enemies, the strongest damaging mod in the game) and Chill. Not to trigger EE, as only you directly can do it.
3) The setup is correct. I don't remember whether you have at least 1 "minions
have chance to taunt with hits" mod and "minions have chance to blind with hits" mod on any of your jewels (having one Abyss Jewel with one mod and one with another one among your 4 is more than enough).
4) You shall put Convocation in the slot of Stone Golem. Current slot of Convo will be taken by UA.
Last edited by Its_OP#0728 on Sep 10, 2021, 5:11:53 AM
Can someone explain the changes to this build compared to pob. Would like to play this correctly. Love it so far but it seems there have been some adjustments this league. Tx
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DontThinkJustClick wrote:
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IkarusRDS wrote:


Hello guys,

1. About EE, I need to have fire + lighting damage to proc EE or "only" fire or "only" lighting ?

2. Is there any way I can proc my EE without having to use the above method ? I saw some people mentioning that they use Unbound Aliments + Skitterbots to proc EE effect. (I didn't quite understand this part)

3. I'm pretty confused about the jewels in the skill tree, I currently have 2 large cluster + 4 medium cluster + 4 Ghastly Eye (2 per cluster) + 1 Primordial Might + 1 Primordial Eminence + 1 The Anima Stone, this is correct, or am I using something out of date ?

4. We used the Stone Golem in our build, wouldn't it be more interesting to replace it with another Carrion Golem? Also we would save a slot on the ring.

5. My Wand has a 4 second cooldown, so I don't need to use Inc. Duration, what do you suggest to put in its place ?

Finally, I think that's it, I still have many doubts, hehehehe.

Thank you all !

1 and 5) I would recommend trying to use something like "Divergent Storm Brand", "Anomalous OOS", "Flesh Offering" in the trigger setup. Mana may be a problem, can be fixed by "mana cost of non-channeling" craft on your rings or amulet. Talking about EE in general, you can hit an enemy by whatever combination of elements, unless your damaging one is among them.
2) We use UA for Skitterbots to increase effects of Shock (inc damage taken by enemies, the strongest damaging mod in the game) and Chill. Not to trigger EE, as only you directly can do it.
3) The setup is correct. I don't remember whether you have at least 1 "minions
have chance to taunt with hits" mod and "minions have chance to blind with hits" mod on any of your jewels (having one Abyss Jewel with one mod and one with another one among your 4 is more than enough).
4) You shall put Convocation in the slot of Stone Golem. Current slot of Convo will be taken by UA.


Yey ! Thank u again :)

1. Anomalous OOS would be Orb of Storm? Do you believe this setup would proc the EE ?

2. Okay, I understand why we use UA !

3. I don't have any jewels with this mod, but I will provide it, it will give extra survival.

4. Is Convocation really necessary ? I say this because good slot rings are expensive precisely because of the slot
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IkarusRDS wrote:


Yey ! Thank u again :)

1. Anomalous OOS would be Orb of Storm? Do you believe this setup would proc the EE ?

2. Okay, I understand why we use UA !

3. I don't have any jewels with this mod, but I will provide it, it will give extra survival.

4. Is Convocation really necessary ? I say this because good slot rings are expensive precisely because of the slot

OOS = Orb of Storms. The setup will definitely proc EE, as both spells deal pure Lightning hits. Furthermore, they don't require you to walk through packs, that may increase your survivability. Storm Brand + OOS was the best EE setup before Trigger got nerfed to 8 sec. Jewel is absolutely necessary, your survivability will skyrocket (monsters start basically target your minions instead of you and have much lower chance to hit you when they have a chance to strike). Convocation is a must have as well, as positioning of your minions is the very thing responsible for their targeting and DPS (there is the whole post about proper Specters positioning). Besides that, it's a "Minion" skill, activating which affects the "Minion Damage" mod on top-tier Abyss Jewels.
P.S. I'm curious, did you switch to Necro after starting the league by another build ? This would explain the fact that you've made pretty good gear for quite a lot of money, without understanding of some basic mechanics. Unless it's something secret of course.
Last edited by Its_OP#0728 on Sep 10, 2021, 5:00:50 PM
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DontThinkJustClick wrote:
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IkarusRDS wrote:


Yey ! Thank u again :)

1. Anomalous OOS would be Orb of Storm? Do you believe this setup would proc the EE ?

2. Okay, I understand why we use UA !

3. I don't have any jewels with this mod, but I will provide it, it will give extra survival.

4. Is Convocation really necessary ? I say this because good slot rings are expensive precisely because of the slot

OOS = Orb of Storms. The setup will definitely proc EE, as both spells deal pure Lightning hits. Furthermore, they don't require you to walk through packs, that may increase your survivability. Storm Brand + OOS was the best EE setup before Trigger got nerfed to 8 sec. Jewel is absolutely necessary, your survivability will skyrocket (monsters start basically target your minions instead of you and have much lower chance to hit you when they have a chance to strike). Convocation is a must have as well, as positioning of your minions is the very thing responsible for their targeting and DPS (there is the whole post about proper Specters positioning). Besides that, it's a "Minion" skill, activating which affects the "Minion Damage" mod on top-tier Abyss Jewels.
P.S. I'm curious, did you switch to Necro after starting the league by another build ? This would explain the fact that you've made pretty good gear for quite a lot of money, without understanding of some basic mechanics. Unless it's something secret of course.


Okay, thank you, all doubts have been resolved, in a few days I'll be back here with more doubts, heheheheh.

Actually I haven't played PoE in a while, so I've unlearned a lot of basic mechanics, I've never played with Necro either, so I don't really understand how the mechanics involving minions work.
In that league I took a shortcut, I exchanged two builds I had in Standard for a full build in League.
I still have doubts if I made a good deal

Why my operatives fighting only in melee?
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Hi,

can someone help me with my EQ?

I tried shaper under maven influence and wasn`t even able to kill him. My spectre and Golems died and i was taking to much damage.

Can someone check my tree and items please and give some advices?

Currenty im saving for a new wand +1/+1 + minion damage. aiming for around 10ex.

Is there a better / faster upgrade i should focus on?

thanks in advance!

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walez wrote:
Hi,

can someone help me with my EQ?

I tried shaper under maven influence and wasn`t even able to kill him. My spectre and Golems died and i was taking to much damage.

Can someone check my tree and items please and give some advices?

Currenty im saving for a new wand +1/+1 + minion damage. aiming for around 10ex.

Is there a better / faster upgrade i should focus on?

thanks in advance!



Replace Stone Golem with Convocation, add Feeding Frenzy to the Zombies (this support buffs all of your minions). 20/20 EDWA is 20c as well as Awakened UA. Slight and cheap DPS boost for you. Replace Kiara's and Mana Flaks asap, I'd recommend taking another Quicksilver and 1 Quartz. I'm pretty sure you've failed Shaper due to your personal mistakes, focus on positioning of your character and your minions. Btw, what does your AG wears ?
I don't understand the feeding frenzy and zombie link. Does it help the rest of the minions? It doesnt feel like it and I'm considering having a preditor/feeding frenzy gem swap ony Spectres if I can get some good white sockets. My spectres will sometime just stand right by me when my carrion golems and zombies are fighting. This only really matters for bosses.

Also ran the Maven with the 4 breaxh bosses and almost lost my animate guardian. I just got the divergent animate gaurdian so it is only 19. Anything I should do to buff it? I use your recommended items. % life regen on boots and chest. Looking to get the helmet currupt regen. Boots and gloves cover the 35% resists and 55% for chaos.
Last edited by DoritheExplorer#3345 on Sep 11, 2021, 9:14:03 AM
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DoritheExplorer wrote:
I don't understand the feeding frenzy and zombie link. Does it help the rest of the minions? It doesnt feel like it and I'm considering having a preditor/feeding frenzy gem swap ony Spectres if I can get some good white sockets. My spectres will sometime just stand right by me when my carrion golems and zombies are fighting. This only really matters for bosses.

Also ran the Maven with the 4 breaxh bosses and almost lost my animate guardian. I just got the divergent animate gaurdian so it is only 19. Anything I should do to buff it? I use your recommended items. % life regen on boots and chest. Looking to get the helmet currupt regen. Boots and gloves cover the 35% resists and 55% for chaos.

Feeding Frenzy Support, besides acting as a normal support provides Feeding Frenzy buff to all minions, giving them +10% damage, +10% action speed. The Hidden is a place, where AG may die in some situations no matter the gear. Uul-Nethol's spike blast deals absurd damage.

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