[Outdated] Lancing Steel Raider | SoftCore | Not league starter viable anymore
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Leckarion wrote:
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Prong007 wrote:
Build looks very interesting, thinking to give it a try.
Any feedback on survivabilty, esp. in the endgame ultimatum league mechanik?
Maybe any thoughts on using a Kintsugi for more survivabilty if needed?
Heya! Thanks for replying! I'm not dying with my current setup running T14-T16 maps. https://pastebin.com/nPAiJmWa
(Running Champion as league starter in this league in order to optimize a leveling and build guide for the Duelist version of Lancing Steel as requested from some people)
TL;DR: Kintsugi is nice and you may use it if you feel like doing so. Also avoid Petrified blood low life setups with this build.
Kintsugi is actually good and gives you a nice damage mitigation, but it's unnecessary. I'd rather have either Perfect Form(free Phase Acrobatics, decent life and free arctic armour), Replica Perfect Form(decent life and a free Flesh and Stone + Maim setup) or Belly of the Beast(a LOT of life and free resistances). You already have Wind Dancer with this build, Kintsugi becomes a nice damage mitigation tool but not really necessary because of the Life Leech and Life Gain on Hit you can achieve. Even though the Glass-cannon version is, well, a glass-cannon, with smart positioning and preemptive movement you'll be able to kill stuff before dying. Ultimatums are not that hard, specially if you know the best modifiers to use depending on the map mods and Ultimatum challenge type.
I do not recommend going for the Petrified Blood setup some people are using if you abhor dying, because without high dodge and evasion you may die very frequently if you are a Ranger, though with this specific setup, Kintsugi might be awesome if you stack enough dodge and evasion. Champions that go for this are only successful with high phys dmg reduction, good block, the "perma" adrenaline setup and a decent leech/ life gain on hit.(I myself tried this setup out with more than 40% block, a good life leech and 90% phys dmg reduction and still occasionally was dying in a second.
Hope that answers your questions! Have a great one and take it easy!
It doesn't feel good on armor at Raider. I upgrade my gear but still bothering with Trials at t14+.
Don't get me wrong i love lancing steel but i feel like it isn't design for good Trials clearing. Single target is a beast but Trials makes my ass sweety.
My current gear: (maybe i fucked up something and that's why i don't enjoy lancing steel on Trials)
Heya! Whats the problem you're currently facing? Clear problems? Are you being overrun by mobs and then one shot?
Your gear is awesome, but if you wish to get even more survivability, maybe swapping OttS for a Crafted gripped gloves with +1 maximum frenzy that has good life will help. You may as well drop some damage nodes(such as ambidexterity) and get more life nodes and another jewel socket to slot in another jewel with dmg and 7% life to improve your survivability.
I currently have around half your current dps and am not having so much trouble with ultimatums in t15-16 maps, I always keep moving and casting LS aiming the direction I'm going and my Saviours shoot at everything else. But indeed this build is, as said in the introduction of the guide, a focused boss killer build that also can clear maps very well.
Try swapping Lancing Steel for Splitting steel when doing ultimatums to test out if the clear of that other skill is enjoyable in Ultimatums.
Really hope that helps in some way. Wish to help ya with your experience using the build.
The CWDT link on Ancestral Protector and Ice Golem seems like a bit of a wasted slot. The mana cost and time to cast are pretty trivial, and it's not often that your golem will get killed. Is there a decent support gem that could make better use of the slot? Empower looks to be the best alternate after fiddling with PoB, sqeezing out an extra percentage or so of DPS.
Heya! CWDT is used for the golem simply so you can reserve most of your mana and have just enough to cast your other skills, being Summon Ice Golem the skill with the higher mana cost of all the skills in this build. If you check my min-maxed setups you'll see that I have less unreserved mana than the mana cost of Summon Ice Golem, plus it's kinda a QoL decision to not have to think about recasting the golem since there are so many things you have to keep track already with this build. If you wish to selfcast the golem, swap cwdt for an empower suport. If you're already using Phantasmal Ancestral Protector and Anomalous Summon Ice Golem, get an Enhance support instead. The protector must be selfcast anyways since cwdt doesn't support totems.
Hope that clarifies my decision with the cwdt setup on that 4-link! Have a great one!
Ah that's a good point about the precision aura, didn't think to consider that. Still, looking at your high budget PoB, you can squeeze an extra ~1mil DPS over the higher level precision with a lvl 2 empower (up to about 3mil if you hit the jackpot w/ a lvl 21 phantasmal AP and upgrade to a lvl 4 empower). So, I guess it's a matter of whether the QoL of saving on the occasional Golem cast is worth the 1%-ish DPS hit
Last edited by kleril#1949 on Apr 27, 2021, 3:56:20 PM
Im rolling a paradoxica, got phys dmg and bleeding on the first roll, what would be the best from the following for the 2nd? (attack speed while a rare/unique enemy nearby, accuracy + quality, crit strike chance+qual)?
Heya! Whats the problem you're currently facing? Clear problems? Are you being overrun by mobs and then one shot?
Your gear is awesome, but if you wish to get even more survivability, maybe swapping OttS for a Crafted gripped gloves with +1 maximum frenzy that has good life will help. You may as well drop some damage nodes(such as ambidexterity) and get more life nodes and another jewel socket to slot in another jewel with dmg and 7% life to improve your survivability.
I currently have around half your current dps and am not having so much trouble with ultimatums in t15-16 maps, I always keep moving and casting LS aiming the direction I'm going and my Saviours shoot at everything else. But indeed this build is, as said in the introduction of the guide, a focused boss killer build that also can clear maps very well.
Try swapping Lancing Steel for Splitting steel when doing ultimatums to test out if the clear of that other skill is enjoyable in Ultimatums.
Really hope that helps in some way. Wish to help ya with your experience using the build.
Yes, i'm being overrun by mobs and then some random spell etc. kill me.
I will try splitting steel maybe this will be the case. Thanks
The CWDT link on Ancestral Protector and Ice Golem seems like a bit of a wasted slot. The mana cost and time to cast are pretty trivial, and it's not often that your golem will get killed. Is there a decent support gem that could make better use of the slot? Empower looks to be the best alternate after fiddling with PoB, sqeezing out an extra percentage or so of DPS.
Heya! CWDT is used for the golem simply so you can reserve most of your mana and have just enough to cast your other skills, being Summon Ice Golem the skill with the higher mana cost of all the skills in this build. If you check my min-maxed setups you'll see that I have less unreserved mana than the mana cost of Summon Ice Golem, plus it's kinda a QoL decision to not have to think about recasting the golem since there are so many things you have to keep track already with this build. If you wish to selfcast the golem, swap cwdt for an empower suport. If you're already using Phantasmal Ancestral Protector and Anomalous Summon Ice Golem, get an Enhance support instead. The protector must be selfcast anyways since cwdt doesn't support totems.
Hope that clarifies my decision with the cwdt setup on that 4-link! Have a great one!
Ah that's a good point about the precision aura, didn't think to consider that. Still, looking at your high budget PoB, you can squeeze an extra ~1mil DPS over the higher level precision with a lvl 2 empower (up to about 3mil if you hit the jackpot w/ a lvl 21 phantasmal AP and upgrade to a lvl 4 empower). So, I guess it's a matter of whether the QoL of saving on the occasional Golem cast is worth the 1%-ish DPS hit
Heya! I guess that empower setup would make a bigger impact on lower budgets, especially when you don't yet use Precision Aura.
I say that because I was melting bosses in seconds already with 70 million dps on that character, going from 70 mil to 100 mil only sped up my Sirus kills for around 3 sec in the last phase, for example.(at the time I had a previous recording of the last phase melt and compared both)
Heya! Whats the problem you're currently facing? Clear problems? Are you being overrun by mobs and then one shot?
Your gear is awesome, but if you wish to get even more survivability, maybe swapping OttS for a Crafted gripped gloves with +1 maximum frenzy that has good life will help. You may as well drop some damage nodes(such as ambidexterity) and get more life nodes and another jewel socket to slot in another jewel with dmg and 7% life to improve your survivability.
I currently have around half your current dps and am not having so much trouble with ultimatums in t15-16 maps, I always keep moving and casting LS aiming the direction I'm going and my Saviours shoot at everything else. But indeed this build is, as said in the introduction of the guide, a focused boss killer build that also can clear maps very well.
Try swapping Lancing Steel for Splitting steel when doing ultimatums to test out if the clear of that other skill is enjoyable in Ultimatums.
Really hope that helps in some way. Wish to help ya with your experience using the build.
Yes, i'm being overrun by mobs and then some random spell etc. kill me.
I will try splitting steel maybe this will be the case. Thanks
Heya! Are you using CoS frequently? Usually when I use CoS most mobs explode from the Stored Impaled damage dealt as Reflected AoE damage. I usually cast CoS as soon as I dash away after attacking sacrificing my last 4 steel shards and in the Monster elimination ultimatum, the progression bar usually makes a jump when I cast CoS. WHile LS is a more focused high damage attack, Splitting Stel fires an attack sacrificing 1 steel shard per attack and it explodes on impact(or at the targeted location/max range) dealing damage and firing additional projectiles towards nearby enemies. The 2-handed sword version of this build(that I don't cover because I don't like) Uses a 6-link Splitting Steel setup for clearing and a 6-link Lancing Steel setup for bossing, but imo the clear speed is actually lower because they don't have the saviour clones to spam the skill focusing different targets.
Im rolling a paradoxica, got phys dmg and bleeding on the first roll, what would be the best from the following for the 2nd? (attack speed while a rare/unique enemy nearby, accuracy + quality, crit strike chance+qual)?
Heya! Thanks for replying!
The best first mods are Increased phys dmg + blind chance or increased ohys dmg + impale chance.
As for the second mod, the best is by far the attack speed + quality mod, the second best is the critical strike chance + quality mod.
Hope that helps! Have a great one!
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Last edited by Leckarion#5933 on Apr 27, 2021, 5:07:47 PM
Well i have a question about this here :
4-links "Auras":
Pride(21/20%)) - Dread Banner(21/23%) - Herald of Purity(lvl 21) - Anomalous Enlighten(lvl 4)
why the Anomalous Enlighten ?
maybe its bugged but it seems only to lower the intelligence from enlighten not from the support gems.
or is there any other reason to take that one ? ... bought lvl2 anomalous because i thought it will reduce in int requ. from herold of purity , but no its not.
Well i have a question about this here :
4-links "Auras":
Pride(21/20%)) - Dread Banner(21/23%) - Herald of Purity(lvl 21) - Anomalous Enlighten(lvl 4)
why the Anomalous Enlighten ?
maybe its bugged but it seems only to lower the intelligence from enlighten not from the support gems.
or is there any other reason to take that one ? ... bought lvl2 anomalous because i thought it will reduce in int requ. from herold of purity , but no its not.
may you can help me out
Heya! It reduces Enlighten's int requirement, meaning a lvl 4 anomalous enlighten requires aroung 68 int instead of 93. At level 3, enlighten support requires more int than a lvl 21 HoP. It's fairly easy to get up to 70 int with this build by getting a amulet with 24 int implicit, a OttS with a decent roll to all attributes and on the passive tree. You'll need at most 70 int with the finished build using anomalous enlighten, and would need 93 with default enlighen.
maybe you can help me to improve it further.
what should i get next ?
Paradoxica or a 6link with crit to attack and power charge -> later with additional curse <<-- most important which base should we go ? astral plate / assassin garb ?
my Rings arent that good, but hard to find aynthing with lgoh t1 with life craft on it and good resis.
amulet isnt great aswell but atleast brings me resis cap.
should i switch to high end build and do i the run through note to get 100% impale chance - looks like otherwise i only end up with ~80%
