0.9.9 Patch Notes

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BlackDeathBE wrote:

Immune monsters

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Try to create a mixture of monsters which, for one character alone, would be practically impossible or at least extremely slow to kill. Why aren't there immunities in the game yet ? Immune to a specific type of elemental damage, immune to all elemental damage, immune to all physical,... I doubt any one character can get a decent amount of each of these types of damage. Perhaps it's possible, but it would probably be damn slow and thus ineffecient.

Of course, similar to D2, only start adding immunities to one sort of damge in difficulty level 2, and to multiple types of damage in difficulty level 3.

This would encourage people to actually either look for specific types of players, or to create multi-player builds: two players often playing together with builds perfectly complementing each other.

[Edit, thanks Jmancini]
Perhaps increasing the effectiveness and range of aura's can also increase the usefulness of teaming up with multiple players with different aura's.


Other than these two culprits, I totally love the game, and the upcoming patch :)

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Gh0un wrote:

Thats why i said that "lotteries as the only way of obtaining better stuff" is terrible.
The emphasis is on only.

D2 had many ways of obtaining better stuff, be it rune words, uniques, or certain drops in hellfire.

In path of exile, everything is based on a lottery when it comes to late game items.
There is too much emphasis on the lottery aspect of things in PoE.

Im also not saying that D2 had the perfect system of handling things.
D2 also had a too luck based item system, but PoE is taking it to a whole new level.

Instead of going into the direction of rewarding skill, GGG decided to further tap into the lottery bullshit, which i dont think is good design.

I probably shouldnt have used D2 as an example at all, since the crafting system in D2 was terrible aswell, but it had a few options atleast.

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Sillenius wrote:

in how many hours from now should the patch happen ?

i'm really bad at timezones, its 00:00 in Croatia right now, would appreciate if someone helps me out ! :)

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unsmith wrote:

Everyone please STFU about the RNG in POE. There are countless threads about this already, and I'm tired of people shitting up other threads with this crap.

The devs have stated, multiple times, that high variance is core to the game. It will not change. You're entitled to not like this, if you don't, go play something else.

Path of Exile is never going to be the game for everyone. They made the game they want, and it has many loyal followers and will get many more. There will also always be people that hate it, hate the RNG, hate the lottery aspect, and that's fine. Again, not the game for everyone.

JUST PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT IT.

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BlackDeathBE wrote:

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thepmrc wrote:

So you are upset that it is hard to win the lottery? Maybe adjust your expectations and you will not be so disappointed.

I'm not playing the lottery, I'm playing an ARPG. If I wanted the thrill of a one-in-a-million chance of winning, I'd go buy a lottery ticket. Instead, I want to get the feeling that I am as good as I deserve to be - not being good just because I got lucky.

I personally dislike games that are all about luck. Life is enough about luck as it is - in games, you can generally get as good as you want just by becoming more skillful and/or investing more time.


A solution to the fusing-orb problem seems simple enough to me, but maybe I haven't thought it over enough. Why not some kind of system like upgradable orbs ? Add prefixes, like Glowing, Shining, Sparkling,... Sell an amount of a kind of orb to a vendor and he'll give you a better version.
- Normal fusing orb: randomly reforges the links between sockets on an item.
- Glowing fusing orb (5 normal fusing orbs ?): Allows you to choose which sockets to link, up to a maximum of 4 sockets
- Shining fusing orb (10 glowing / 50 normal fusing orbs ?): Allows you to choose which sockets to link, up to a maximum of 5 sockets
- Sparkling fusing orb (10 shining / 100 glowing / 500 normal fusing orbs ?): Creates a 6-link item.

Do the same for jeweler's orbs:
- Normal: random amount of sockets like it is now
- Glowing: adds 1 socket, up to 4
- Shining: adds 1 socket, up to 5
- Sparkling: creates 6-socketed item

And for chromatic orbs:
- Normal: all random colors
- Glowing: change the color of the chosen socket, up till sockets in 4-links
- Shining: up till 5-links
- Sparkling: up till 6-links

This way, you keep the current (random) system. But then players who are willing to invest a lot of time, can at least choose to go a route which doesn't involve pure luck...


About that other sad thing about this otherwise totally absolutely wonderful game: the lack of incentive to party up. I believe the best way to fix this is by trying to create situations where one character stands pretty much no chance to defeat certain monsters or bosses.

Why aren't there immunities in the game yet ? Immune to a specific type of elemental damage, immune to all elemental damage, immune to all physical,... I doubt any one character can get a decent amount of each of these types of damage. Perhaps it's possible, but it would probably be damn slow.

Of course, like in D2, only start adding immunities to one sort of damge in difficulty level 2, and to multiple types of damage in difficulty level 3.

This would encourage people to actually either look for specific types of players, or to create multi-player builds: two players often playing together with builds perfectly complementing each other.

Also, I'm not sure if you can, atm, activate multiple aura's at once. If you limit this to only one aura per player, and increase the effectiveness of aura's, you'd make multiple-player parties much more interesting, adding whole new dimentions to the (multi-player aspect of the) game.


Other than these two culprits, I totally love the game, and the upcoming patch :)

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Chris wrote:

Don't expect a change to the Fusing orb stuff any time soon, we are pretty happy with how that's currently working. High variance item mechanics are a key design choice! It's pretty easy to get four linked sockets. It's not cripplingly hard to get five linked sockets. Six is overkill and designed to be very rare. I want there to be something for players to strive for in the long term.