⛵☁️[3.25] The Arachnophobia Allstars| Chaos Guardian CI|The dirty Scorpion-tail|Herald of Agony 150M+

Hi.

Feel like I'm probably done with this now. Had some lucky drops and managed to farm enough currency to buy a mageblood. I think there's more I could do but not really sure where. Corrupted ashes for extra curse is the only thing that really stands out. Remaining two levels but not sure I can be bothered with the grind.

One thing that's bugged me throughout and I should've asked sooner was my CWDT setup and also weapon setup with travel skill and the brand.

I never seem to have enough mana for the CWDT stuff to cast regularly and as a result feels like wasted slots.

Similarly with the weapon slot. I NEVER use the brand and I've always disliked shield charge as a movement skill. However with withering step, flame dash etc feels clunky with the cooldowns. Was there a better option? Should I have used a mark instead of the brand? I dont boss kill alot so maybe thats why the brand felt useless - or is it there for spreading curses - which I then didn't need due to my gloves? So much confusion for me over this one.

Ultimately it feels strong and your gudies and POBs were very good, so thanks for that. Been a good season on a character I'd never played before.

EDIT: included a pob for my character

https://pobb.in/Wbiwjg3ZbZot

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Tolotos wrote:

I found my first Mirror this league, so I feel richer than god atm...


So, this is the first time I can really get an expensive build.

What would be some good upgrades I can still incorporate into my build for a total of up to around 500-550 div?

https://pobb.in/sgTO0D9gZ2mM

Congratulations! That is a magic moment when there is such a big drop in wraeclast!

Best upgrades are first a better watchers eye, a better helmet and better rings.
I would go for a rare +2 helmet, there are many cheap and good ones in trade this league crafted with the recombinators. Then you need 1x circle of nostalgia for the additional chaosdamage to poison with pure elemental skills.
Better small clusters are also available, and you can balance out veteran defender on the large cluster against voices.

Then further it's a question of personal favour.
Mageblood, melding of the flesh and the Adorned balances a bit more into tankyness and it's fun to max the flasks (but when you already used mageblood too often in the past it's probably too boring also).

At some high level often damage is turning more interesting, and with your budget using a HoA-crit setup is attractive of course also.

With 500 div you can go b.i.s. on most slots easy.

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Macca84 wrote:

Hi.

Feel like I'm probably done with this now. Had some lucky drops and managed to farm enough currency to buy a mageblood. I think there's more I could do but not really sure where. Corrupted ashes for extra curse is the only thing that really stands out. Remaining two levels but not sure I can be bothered with the grind.

One thing that's bugged me throughout and I should've asked sooner was my CWDT setup and also weapon setup with travel skill and the brand.

I never seem to have enough mana for the CWDT stuff to cast regularly and as a result feels like wasted slots.

Similarly with the weapon slot. I NEVER use the brand and I've always disliked shield charge as a movement skill. However with withering step, flame dash etc feels clunky with the cooldowns. Was there a better option? Should I have used a mark instead of the brand? I dont boss kill alot so maybe thats why the brand felt useless - or is it there for spreading curses - which I then didn't need due to my gloves? So much confusion for me over this one.

Ultimately it feels strong and your gudies and POBs were very good, so thanks for that. Been a good season on a character I'd never played before.

EDIT: included a pob for my character

https://pobb.in/Wbiwjg3ZbZot

Hey Macca!
Yeeeaah, you are almost b.i.s. geared. Great stinged!

I am away from desktop-pc, so I can take a look in pob only next week. On first view in your setup 3x sublime form is not optimal on the small clusters, mix in self-control and uncompromising. The small rare jewel should have +2 max cold-resis.

Manareg and -recoup is overall easy to scale up on abyss-jewels, ring-implicits, self discipline, other cluster-notables or also tattoos or with clarity. When you find or craft some fitting jewels it makes the difference if you reach 40, 60 or 90 mana-reg /second. Above 90 unreserved mana I always scale into mana-reg because it's more effective. You can use a second manamastery too or switch the first into mana-recoups for cwdt.

The optimizations are shown in "mana-manager" and "mana-master" in "checklists stats", and in the jewels and tattoos and in the trade-links-filters.

In the wraeclast in-game reality ordinary you stop somewhere 0.5 sec to loot and all skills trigger. Also the build is fullgeared tanky enough without frost shield or withering step, so it's a question of personal balancing. My HoA-jugg in example sacrifices 5M damage to buff 60 mana-reg instead up into 80 mana-reg/sec beside high mana-recoups because it's damage is already extremely high in almost all juiced t-17. The differences are not that much crucial. Try out clarity instead storm brand.

Glad that you improved through the difficult levels! Probably a rare +2 helmet would bring in 2 suffixes more in your setup. I e. needed resis or attributes to use more tattoos. The helmets are cheap this league with the recombinator-craftings.

I dislike the accelerations of shield charge too, but at some point it's simply fastest in large flat designed maps. Alternative the first flame dash proccs always and is recommended against ubers, but not the second and third dash. Storm brands have good HoA-uptime while leveling. Later they generate too slow virulences, but remain a bit qol against bosses or high juiced singletargets like the gigantic titanic seance-rogue-exiles. Storm brand is not needed, switch it out.
Arcanist brand is clunky, but against bosses easy casted each 15 secs. In maps use asenaths-gloves-implicits or somewhere hextouch or of course you can balance into other damagesources easy too. Assassin's mark becomes only b.i.s. when you want to scale your damage further into the 100M-300M HoA-crits.

That all is gladly very flexible and you should individualize like you like it most!

Extreme good done! Thank you a lot too! Arachnophilia!

The Crit-HoA-Pob is updated and improved.

Already in the last leagues this build`s damage in good gear improved from 237M across 418M to quite attractive 520M.
Now with the good available and craftable b.i.s. rare +8 amulets and cheap rare +2 helmets the Arachnophilia Allstars arrived at the maximal HoA-lvl 40 cap in the high budget-variation and crawl into 606M damage in tanky 230k ehp in [3.25] Settlers.
I hope recombinator-crafting goes core, these amulets are a huge buff and op.

■ Alternative 500M damage in extreme tanky 1M-2M ehp can be chosen with rainbows, tempestshield, increased aura-effects, and 1 passive more spell suppression.
■ When you prefer instead to focus on dps around 800M are easy reached as necro with the more offensive ascendancy corpse pact, more offensive skills, clusters, whispers of doom or anathema-ring for punishment, increased curse- and mark-effects and intimidations in still very nice 200k ehp.
■ And last not least - of course with more offensive geared boots, belt, shield, auras and flasks much more damage beyond would be dealt when you want to play glascannon and want to almost oneshot all ubers 1 sec faster.

For all updates take a look into the spoiler "The crawler raises - Herald of Agony caught the POE world by storm" and into the last spoiler "updates / changelog" at the bottom of the build.

https://pobb.in/3ZbX5FCw

In this b.i.s. gear the HoA counts:

■ for each supportgem around 200M dps
■ for each one of the final small passives around 10M - 20M
■ for each of the medium clusters 80M - 160M
■ for each of the damage-orientated jewels 100M

It`s awesome.
I do not know a better scaling minion, sorry, even squishy spectres, holy relics or meta-bamas cannot really compete.
It`s awesome beside that HoA`s budget in these b.i.s.-gear-categories is still much cheaper as other minion-builds and easy and flexible to scale with the medium pure agony-clusters.

Arachnophilia!

HoA arrives in half a billion - and much more.

Now I don't understand which pob to use, you show the pob for the templar or the witch, I would like to start with the templar (because I already have lvl 95) and then if I like it, then switch to the witch, as I understand the equipment is not much different? Should I use this pob or which one? https://pobb.in/PckSa20v
Now i have 250 div, what is better to buy with this money?

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vjsman wrote:

Now I don't understand which pob to use, you show the pob for the templar or the witch, I would like to start with the templar (because I already have lvl 95) and then if I like it, then switch to the witch, as I understand the equipment is not much different? Should I use this pob or which one? https://pobb.in/PckSa20v
Now i have 250 div, what is better to buy with this money?

Because the necro is most easy with her pathing and flexible gloves to scale up into 150 and 500M dps her pob's are shown as optimal dps-focussed examples.

As guardian and in other ascendancies simply path on shortest way to next cluster spot and then follow her pob. Gloves can be compensated in maps with a minion-mastery unholy might after kill instead 4W-socket triad-grips or a good manamanagement and anathema ring instead vixens entrapements gloves.

The necro remains best when you want to scale into half a billion in lategame, other ascendancies have more tankyness instead.

In most content above 100M you already oneshot the maps, so I recommend Trickster against dot, Necro for damage. But of course it's budget depending which gear you can collect.

Guardian is great for the mix of easy leveling and good tankyness. Later Necro and Trickster are a bit better in the leagues since 3.23.

thanks, I've already started leveling up Necro!
I have a question about cluster gems, unique ones that give +3 cost 80div each, so the choice is between unique +5 or rare +5, why take unique ones if they don't give anything, and you spend skill points on them anyway? Isn't it better to choose rare ones, for example, + to resistances or characteristics, even without key skills?
I think I got it, it's because of the 3 slots

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vjsman wrote:

Spoiler

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Chromino wrote:

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vjsman wrote:

Now I don't understand which pob to use, you show the pob for the templar or the witch, I would like to start with the templar (because I already have lvl 95) and then if I like it, then switch to the witch, as I understand the equipment is not much different? Should I use this pob or which one? https://pobb.in/PckSa20v
Now i have 250 div, what is better to buy with this money?

Because the necro is most easy with her pathing and flexible gloves to scale up into 150 and 500M dps her pob is shown as optimal example.

As guardian and in other ascendancies simply path on shortest way to next cluster spot and then follow her pob. Gloves can be compensated in maps with a minion-mastery unholy might after kill or a good manamanagement and anathema ring.

But necro remains best when you want to scale into half a billion in lategame, other ascendancies have more tankyness instead.

In most content above 100M you already oneshot the maps, so I recommend Trickster against dot, Necro for damage. But of course it's budget depending which gear you can collect.

Guardian is great for the mix of easy leveling and good tankyness. Later Necro and Trickster are a bit better in these leagues.

thanks, I've already started leveling up Necro!
I have a question about cluster gems, unique ones that give +3 cost 80div each, so the choice is between unique +5 or rare +5, why take unique ones if they don't give anything, and you spend skill points on them anyway? Isn't it better to choose rare ones, for example, + to resistances or characteristics, even without key skills?
I think I got it, it's because of the 3 slots

Yes, because HoA scales heavy with more medium clusters, ghastly jewels and in lategame with grand spectrums the jewelslots of voices are b.i.s.

The 5 passive large clusters are also most cheap, 15 chaos. They are always 100% recommended when you catched a fitting unique medium cluster with pure agony and 2 additional fitting notables or before you need to travel the long journey to the next clusterslot.

When you focus on tankyness, capped spellblock on rare large clusters is better, but there are many b.i.s. megamaniacs cheap in trade this league (around 200 for 50 chaos-2 div), so going with 2-3 cheapest voices is best.

Can someone please help me understand how to make sense of this written guide. I spent last 45 mins trying to understand how to level and get the actual build going.
But now I have am even more confused than I was an hour ago.


Is there a better guide for a similar build out there?

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_DumB_ wrote:

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Hi Dumb!

Yes, stacking auras, understanding CI and HoA and scaling ehp into 1M and dps into 500M is a bit more complex than 50k/10M-starter-guides.

When you have a lot experiences in poe the short spoiler "Tl;Dr" and "pob" should be enough for you.

When you have not much experiences with auras, clusters, minions, poison, etc. please simply take the time you need to read all in "Tl;Dr" or "Faq" recommended thematical spoilers on page 483:

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3019705/page/483

Did you read the "Pro /Contra"?
When you don`t have the time to read, for other builds I recommend the famous secret dr.google especially to you.