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Is it just me or does Poison not work with Agony Crawler?

I put poison support linked to my lightning ball and the crawler never spawns.

I switch to lesser and it spawns constantly.

What gives?

EDIT: I found that it doesn't work with Agony Crawler...

So why would we want it in our build? It's in your POB.
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Last edited by Bacon_Overlord#1834 on Apr 19, 2021, 5:23:42 AM
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Bacon_Overlord wrote:
Is it just me or does Poison not work with Agony Crawler?

I put poison support linked to my lightning ball and the crawler never spawns.

I switch to lesser and it spawns constantly.

What gives?

EDIT: I found that it doesn't work with Agony Crawler...

So why would we want it in our build? It's in your POB.



i assume cause in the finished build we poison through other sources (like chaos damage on ring), so no lesser poison is needed to poison.

then the poison support increases the chance that we actually poison with the supported skill, so your ball lightning has for example 80% chance to add a poison and hence create a virulence chance instead of for example 60 without the skill.

so until u have another chaos damage source on gear u will need lesser poison to even be able to poison -.-
i hope this is somewhat understandable
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Humtol wrote:
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Chromino wrote:
"Poison support" don't have added chaos damage, you need "lesser poison support".

Or poison support and added chaos damage somewhere on your gear like belt-jewels or rings work too.

I am an Idiot, took the wrong support gem. Thanks for the help


Hehe, no problem, it is the fine print of the skill jewels. I try to write it bold in the guide, it is easy to miss.
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Bacon_Overlord wrote:
Is it just me or does Poison not work with Agony Crawler?

I put poison support linked to my lightning ball and the crawler never spawns.

I switch to lesser and it spawns constantly.

What gives?

EDIT: I found that it doesn't work with Agony Crawler...

So why would we want it in our build? It's in your POB.


Hey Bacon Overlord :-)

Yes, you need

a) "lesser" poison support (while levelling not full geared, the skill has chance to poison + added chaos damage)

or

b) poison support + added chaos damage (offered by the ring circle of nostalgia for example or jewels) for the virulences and raising the scorpion.

In endgame we want (anomalous) poison support and circle of nostalgia, you get 100% chance overall to poison with the agony buff and added chaos damage. Building up and substaining the virulences raises your damage of the crawler.

It's in the spoiler "tipps for levelling" but easy to miss, I try to write it more exposed.
Last edited by Chromino#4813 on Apr 19, 2021, 6:07:29 AM
hey, i looked through the guide but didnt find anything,
could u explain the cws setup? are getting shocked that often or is there some deeper mechanic behind this? or is it just for rare proccs in case a big hit happens?

never used that gem ;D only know cwdt setups
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Chromino wrote:
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Bacon_Overlord wrote:
Is it just me or does Poison not work with Agony Crawler?

I put poison support linked to my lightning ball and the crawler never spawns.

I switch to lesser and it spawns constantly.

What gives?

EDIT: I found that it doesn't work with Agony Crawler...

So why would we want it in our build? It's in your POB.


Hey Bacon Overlord :-)

Yes, you need

a) "lesser" poison support (while levelling not full geared, the skill has chance to poison + added chaos damage)

or

b) poison support + added chaos damage (offered by the ring circle of nostalgia for example or jewels) for the virulences and raising the scorpion.

In endgame we want (anomalous) poison support and circle of nostalgia, you get 100% chance overall to poison with the agony buff and added chaos damage. Building up and substaining the virulences raises your damage of the crawler.

It's in the spoiler "tipps for levelling" but easy to miss, I try to write it more exposed.


Gotcha, so the chaos damage is what triggers it. It's odd that it says poison in the description of the gem as what triggers the Agony Crawler. They should really update that.

Thanks for reiterating.
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Schnubbel_ wrote:
hey, i looked through the guide but didnt find anything,
could u explain the cws setup? are getting shocked that often or is there some deeper mechanic behind this? or is it just for rare proccs in case a big hit happens?

never used that gem ;D only know cwdt setups


Hey Schnubbel,

cast when stunned is fine as CI and with glancing blows. It proccs even when you block and with your low life pool you get often stunning hits. We are very tanky, that the stuns don't harm us and with spell-echo our building up and substaining the virulences of the crawler is not interrupted significant. As CI you also avoid 50% of stunning hits, so you don't get chainstunned.

Frostshield is very tanky to facetank bosses or mobs in t18 full deliriums or sirus meteors etc. You need it only for facetanking bosses or in some damagepeaks for the cooldowns of molten shell. Take a look into the spoiler "fire", in endgame you need ignite immunity to get full benefits. We have so much es/ block it is very fine raising our tankyness by 4000 es / sec. For other synergizing effects, like knockbacks to get 60% damagereduction and blindings to double the capacities, take a look at the spoiler "21 is only half of the truth".

Spirit offering raises your damage. It's not ideal on cws, but here it autotarget the corpses. In some boss-encounters it would be better to desecrate first and then after cast spirit offering manually to raise the damage.
I personally prefer it on cws, you have enough damage without when you miss sometimes corpses to trigger it.

Frostwall is very tanky in stationary delves or heist doors and against offscreen ranged damage. You can go without, like in the offensive edition, and change it out for sniper's mark.

About triggering skills you find some tipps in the spoiler "FAQ" ---> "examples for keybindings"

Cast when stunned is not so good on low levels of the skill, but it is best triggering in high levels of the gem. Cwdt is fine too, but do not synergize well with frostshield. You need level 20 gems, and here cws triggers much more often and earlier than cwdt.



Last edited by Chromino#4813 on Apr 19, 2021, 7:03:52 AM
I read the guide but I feel like I have no f****** idea what I read ..

I want it, I am sure of it, cause I am squishy hierophant currently and I hate dying in alched map ultimatum on wave 4.

Can someone recommend more noob friendly material to understand how to do this character?

I have 2 ex farmed, am lvl 84 and I am eager respeccing to stressfree godlike build - I do one char per league - is this build good decision?
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Daemonion wrote:
I read the guide but I feel like I have no f****** idea what I read ..

I want it, I am sure of it, cause I am squishy hierophant currently and I hate dying in alched map ultimatum on wave 4.

Can someone recommend more noob friendly material to understand how to do this character?

I have 2 ex farmed, am lvl 84 and I am eager respeccing to stressfree godlike build - I do one char per league - is this build good decision?



So far it is okay but all i have is arakalis fang so I'm not really that tanky. The damage does feel a bit lack luster right now so I think the cluster jewels are pretty important? I'm still trying to figure out how to scale the builds damage. It's not clearing ultamatums like instantly or anything right now with just the fang.
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Daemonion wrote:
I read the guide but I feel like I have no f****** idea what I read ..

I want it, I am sure of it, cause I am squishy hierophant currently and I hate dying in alched map ultimatum on wave 4.

Can someone recommend more noob friendly material to understand how to do this character?

I have 2 ex farmed, am lvl 84 and I am eager respeccing to stressfree godlike build - I do one char per league - is this build good decision?


Hi Daemonion,

yes, the build is a long one and complex and my english is not native, so sometimes it is often not fine written too.

The build offers a lot of variants and you can individualize it to balance fine offfensives, defensives and quality of life.

When you like it tanky, take the first "definitive defensive edition" in "gear panorama overview" and follow only all steps in "tipps for levelling and gearing" and in "Gear, skill, links". When you have questions, just ask, we have the answers.

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