⛵☁️[3.25] The Arachnophobia Allstars| Chaos Guardian CI|The dirty Scorpion-tail|Herald of Agony 150M+

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Chromino wrote:
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oskurwensyn wrote:
sure, done my man :)
and about watcher... well i got 18% already - its in tree :)
i do hope any advices, cuz i managie to die sometimes - like afk farming beachheds - with normaln ones its ok to just leave char and go for coffer ( arens ofc ) but with infused i still had to be there - wanna to change that :D
so suppression is out of question, like i supposed its gonna be, but no worries :)
i cant deal with pob on my end - too much things to click to get right numbers, im afraid i didnt understand program well enough :(
chars should be public, got gear in stash, can throw it to inv, just let me know :)
many thanks and stay sane!

or meaby i can - at least items
https://pastebin.com/LXPvY3ha


hehehe, thank you! It's a very great set-up with 15M shaper damage and tanky 14M ehp. Awesome!

My first advice is to change out the iron reflexes on skin of the lords. The good old iron reflexes are still best against Sirus' physical damage, but in all other content with the removal of blindings former 50% evasion in patch 3.16 the keystone is no longer b.i.s. Take ghostdance or divine shield and you reach 90-95% evasion, in your set-up probably ghostdance for 23.5M ehp, hehe. You will need much less recovery this way.

Next cap 75% spellblock, it's the priority against spelldamage. Switch the 2% attackblock to 2% spellblock in sanctuary. Regret the small passive redemption and Righteous army and take one passive more 3% spellblock in safeguard. You have one free passive left.

6% efficiency on the transfer of the small cluster determination would perhaps procc your frostshield better, but you need perhaps a tiny bit dex somewhere else then, like attributes quality on the rare ring. Often you get it on a 6% efficiencycluster also. Can you take fertile catalysts also on your legacy nostalgia-ring for more more mana? Or are catalysts like not to use like divine orbs?

As CI you don't take "savage hits" as far as I know. Craft something else what you prefer on the bottled faith.

So, then the great shield question. 2 passives deep thoughts would be with the great legacy watcher's eye around 250 es. Level up and take the 1 free passive of regretted righteous army. Socket vaaldiscipline in the great +3 ring, it's also some nice es, 150 more es. Beatscraft or collaborate with Hillock for 28%/30% quality of the helmet for some 100 more es. You loose 300k damage or so, but reach enough es against oneshots also with the legacy shield, 90% evasion and 73% spellblock. I would choose it this way.
Your gear is great and almost b.i.s., in the end both shields will work and both have ups and downs with es, recovery and granted skills. Try out both after the changes above.
With your watcher's eye, 90% evasion and 3.16 buffed wicked ward 5 passives wicked ward and essence surge are extreme tanky also when you reach around 6.4, 6.5k es.

Extreme great gear! Congrats! Good stuff!



ok https://pastebin.com/P4igTfCE here is update
now sure if i get you right
you meant mana eff? by
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6% efficiency on the transfer of the small cluster determination
i suppose so so i took liberty to getting one with exrta dex and then crafted myself one in tree ;p
about rings - sadly
is already corrupted ( sux i know :|) and
is already catalisted from 80 to 96%
bestiary and armour on the way, meaby im gonna be on yt or something :D

6,2k es with legacy shield, not much improve there, almost 6,7k with old one

now the way is stacking more evasion or armour w/o iron reflexes is still fine?
Last edited by oskurwensyn#3329 on Feb 14, 2022, 7:20:00 PM
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Chromino wrote:
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mgcrywolf09 wrote:
Great guide, a lot of information to absorb, im currently trying to push juiced t16 maps and end game bosses, i seem to survive fairly well as im using the thankiest variant, only problem is my damage doesnt seem to be that great. Can you have a look at my char and see what best option would be to increase my dps or what im missing? Is the chaos conversion tanky enough to complete juiced maps?
Thanks


Thank you a lot FourlegWolf, and we wish Arachnophilia!

Your gear and set-up is already top!

You deal 4.8M singletarget. With vile toxins instead pierce (you should have enough mana) and multistrike for the spiders 6.2M (see spoiler boss-hunting). That is more than enough for almost all content and red t16. Only for UE, The feared or Simulacrum wave 27-30 you should reach around 10M and more.


Best is to insert first the 4th pure agony to reach 8M and second triad grips for 10M shaper-damage. You can regrtet int next to wicked ward and righteous army, so you already reach 5 more virulences and much more damage.

For next the triad grips you need a divergent HoAg lvl 21, cursemastery with despair as second curse and anomalous spellecho-instead the poison-support-gem. So you get again 80% poisonchance, high castspeed and full virulences for the crawlerdamage, see section gloves in "gear, skills, links". Your HoAg is already at lvl 30 - so the chaos mastery for tipping point lvl 31 is very strong too for 12M in the end. Other possibilities are unholy might in the minion mastery for a big buff in high density. Just compare your set-up with the tree of the 100% chaos-conversion-edition.

For all set-ups you need passives or regret some passives. Your lvl 91 is a bit low for the 100% chaosconversion: lvl 93 or 95 are more easy with good defences to turn into offensives. start with one more pure agony and then just check it out how much you can balance into damage!

In defences it's easy to upgrade your belt (stygian with es and some armour around 50 chaos), the second split personality and watcher's eye, there are very strong ones cheap in trade. All your defences are great, only the es and armour are a bit low and you should use the armour&es-mastery.

I would start with watcher's eye and split personality, after receiving them you should have be so tanky that you can balance easy more into damage.

Yes, the chaos-conversion-edition is also extreme tanky. Try it out, when you have some experiences in poe or a safe playstyle you are almost unkillable even with 15M damage and full damage and ready for lvl 100.


Totally forgot about that passive haha thought i had it, will help a lot. With the more juiced maps will it be better to switch out pierce for fork? or will it be worse.
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mgcrywolf09 wrote:
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Chromino wrote:
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mgcrywolf09 wrote:
Great guide, a lot of information to absorb, im currently trying to push juiced t16 maps and end game bosses, i seem to survive fairly well as im using the thankiest variant, only problem is my damage doesnt seem to be that great. Can you have a look at my char and see what best option would be to increase my dps or what im missing? Is the chaos conversion tanky enough to complete juiced maps?
Thanks


Thank you a lot FourlegWolf, and we wish Arachnophilia!

Your gear and set-up is already top!

You deal 4.8M singletarget. With vile toxins instead pierce (you should have enough mana) and multistrike for the spiders 6.2M (see spoiler boss-hunting). That is more than enough for almost all content and red t16. Only for UE, The feared or Simulacrum wave 27-30 you should reach around 10M and more.


Best is to insert first the 4th pure agony to reach 8M and second triad grips for 10M shaper-damage. You can regrtet int next to wicked ward and righteous army, so you already reach 5 more virulences and much more damage.

For next the triad grips you need a divergent HoAg lvl 21, cursemastery with despair as second curse and anomalous spellecho-instead the poison-support-gem. So you get again 80% poisonchance, high castspeed and full virulences for the crawlerdamage, see section gloves in "gear, skills, links". Your HoAg is already at lvl 30 - so the chaos mastery for tipping point lvl 31 is very strong too for 12M in the end. Other possibilities are unholy might in the minion mastery for a big buff in high density. Just compare your set-up with the tree of the 100% chaos-conversion-edition.

For all set-ups you need passives or regret some passives. Your lvl 91 is a bit low for the 100% chaosconversion: lvl 93 or 95 are more easy with good defences to turn into offensives. start with one more pure agony and then just check it out how much you can balance into damage!

In defences it's easy to upgrade your belt (stygian with es and some armour around 50 chaos), the second split personality and watcher's eye, there are very strong ones cheap in trade. All your defences are great, only the es and armour are a bit low and you should use the armour&es-mastery.

I would start with watcher's eye and split personality, after receiving them you should have be so tanky that you can balance easy more into damage.

Yes, the chaos-conversion-edition is also extreme tanky. Try it out, when you have some experiences in poe or a safe playstyle you are almost unkillable even with 15M damage and full damage and ready for lvl 100.


Totally forgot about that passive haha thought i had it, will help a lot. With the more juiced maps will it be better to switch out pierce for fork? or will it be worse.


I use awakened fork only in delve, blight and top high density. In all other content anomalous pierce is best ordinary. Don't use default unawakened fork, it's weak.

Overall it's not that big difference. Awakened fork targets better the mobs and has 15% more projectiles, while pierce has 10% more damage and easier manamanagement.
Last edited by Chromino#4813 on Feb 15, 2022, 8:12:44 AM
Hello, I would just want it confirmed, do the passive node Corruption (35% increased wither effect) work for us? Or is it only used to get access to the +1 chaos gems mastery?
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Leatificat wrote:
Hello, I would just want it confirmed, do the passive node Corruption (35% increased wither effect) work for us? Or is it only used to get access to the +1 chaos gems mastery?


There pob is bugged/ not calculating correct. Because the spiders/ your minions apply withers it's not supported. It's only used for the +1 chaosskills to reach HoAg tipping point lvl 31.

When you use withering step the self-applied withers are buffed great.
Last edited by Chromino#4813 on Feb 15, 2022, 10:58:04 AM
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oskurwensyn wrote:
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Chromino wrote:
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oskurwensyn wrote:
sure, done my man :)
and about watcher... well i got 18% already - its in tree :)
i do hope any advices, cuz i managie to die sometimes - like afk farming beachheds - with normaln ones its ok to just leave char and go for coffer ( arens ofc ) but with infused i still had to be there - wanna to change that :D
so suppression is out of question, like i supposed its gonna be, but no worries :)
i cant deal with pob on my end - too much things to click to get right numbers, im afraid i didnt understand program well enough :(
chars should be public, got gear in stash, can throw it to inv, just let me know :)
many thanks and stay sane!

or meaby i can - at least items
https://pastebin.com/LXPvY3ha


hehehe, thank you! It's a very great set-up with 15M shaper damage and tanky 14M ehp. Awesome!

My first advice is to change out the iron reflexes on skin of the lords. The good old iron reflexes are still best against Sirus' physical damage, but in all other content with the removal of blindings former 50% evasion in patch 3.16 the keystone is no longer b.i.s. Take ghostdance or divine shield and you reach 90-95% evasion, in your set-up probably ghostdance for 23.5M ehp, hehe. You will need much less recovery this way.

Next cap 75% spellblock, it's the priority against spelldamage. Switch the 2% attackblock to 2% spellblock in sanctuary. Regret the small passive redemption and Righteous army and take one passive more 3% spellblock in safeguard. You have one free passive left.

6% efficiency on the transfer of the small cluster determination would perhaps procc your frostshield better, but you need perhaps a tiny bit dex somewhere else then, like attributes quality on the rare ring. Often you get it on a 6% efficiencycluster also. Can you take fertile catalysts also on your legacy nostalgia-ring for more more mana? Or are catalysts like not to use like divine orbs?

As CI you don't take "savage hits" as far as I know. Craft something else what you prefer on the bottled faith.

So, then the great shield question. 2 passives deep thoughts would be with the great legacy watcher's eye around 250 es. Level up and take the 1 free passive of regretted righteous army. Socket vaaldiscipline in the great +3 ring, it's also some nice es, 150 more es. Beatscraft or collaborate with Hillock for 28%/30% quality of the helmet for some 100 more es. You loose 300k damage or so, but reach enough es against oneshots also with the legacy shield, 90% evasion and 73% spellblock. I would choose it this way.
Your gear is great and almost b.i.s., in the end both shields will work and both have ups and downs with es, recovery and granted skills. Try out both after the changes above.
With your watcher's eye, 90% evasion and 3.16 buffed wicked ward 5 passives wicked ward and essence surge are extreme tanky also when you reach around 6.4, 6.5k es.

Extreme great gear! Congrats! Good stuff!



ok https://pastebin.com/P4igTfCE here is update
now sure if i get you right
you meant mana eff? by
"
6% efficiency on the transfer of the small cluster determination
i suppose so so i took liberty to getting one with exrta dex and then crafted myself one in tree ;p
about rings - sadly
is already corrupted ( sux i know :|) and
is already catalisted from 80 to 96%
bestiary and armour on the way, meaby im gonna be on yt or something :D

6,2k es with legacy shield, not much improve there, almost 6,7k with old one

now the way is stacking more evasion or armour w/o iron reflexes is still fine?


yes, that 6% efficiencies on the transfer-passive I meant. Es goes a bit down, but frostshield proccs better while you are spamming skills with a bit more mana.

73% spellblock is great!

Yes, I would choose ghost dance or divine shield as keystone. Iron Reflexes is now only best for farming Sirus or in delve-regions with many physical mods.
But in all other content the 90-95% evasion without iron reflexes is since 3.16 better in defences in my experiences.

Hehe, hope you got 48 good armours! How were the rollings?
97 lvl for now, going for arcane guarding like i said i would, when i get there i will respec some things to balance block and spell block 6,5k with 75/75 atm
not yet blessed - figured out meaby some yt creator would like to make vid - i dont care and he may got some free cash, so not yet done there :D
Hi Chromino

Thanks for the tip the other day. I have been trying to get the defensive block jewel. Spec works at the moment but feels a bit clunky. https://pastebin.com/pjzcEVLb

I realized you can get Glancing Blow with a thread of hope large also giving you acces to Divine Shield.
I have an Skin of the lords with Divine shield, so was thinking of selling and get a cheaper Skin to buy some other pieces of gear. Since I now only save 1 passive point compared 3 without Thread of Hope.
I can then also switch out rainbow striders and get the resistance I now miss on boots. Without Rainbow Striders I still have 64 block and 75 spell block.

I guess I also need to swtich to a stygian and perhaps some now gloves but I feel I will start to lack ES. https://pastebin.com/pW7sW880 I got new boots and things seems okay for now all thought I would love some more ES.


Another question I generally feel like slows (curses or some freeze) really hinders me a lot and blocks my cast speed as well (this has gotten better after more block). Anything to do here? From what I understand of your ailments section. It is all about getting the jewel enchants when possible. Or maybe it's stun and block recovery, I can sometimes barely cast my skills.

Best regards
Mckoch



Last edited by Mckoch#3187 on Feb 16, 2022, 4:59:01 AM
I still not sure how summon spider with Arakaali works:

1) At start of the map i know how to summon spider.
2) In mapping they die or expire, how to resumommon them, especially when you are in situation without time like Ritual etc..?
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AnubixcZ wrote:
I still not sure how summon spider with Arakaali works:

1) At start of the map i know how to summon spider.
2) In mapping they die or expire, how to resumommon them, especially when you are in situation without time like Ritual etc..?


Have you read the guide section about the spiders? If you have writhing jar flask charge just cast desecrate and then flask and kill them. Your crawler is still up just cast desecrate and they spawn for me. If on bosses and there is no fire u can change your minor pantheon to Ryslatha so you get health flask charged (writhing jar)

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