⛵☁️[3.25] The Arachnophobia Allstars| Chaos Guardian CI|The dirty Scorpion-tail|Herald of Agony 150M+

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Chromino wrote:

When you cyclone or use skills they are debuffed to 0.




but that only applies to the elusive right? not the wither stacks, those have 4 second duration i think.
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VioLenceJak wrote:
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Chromino wrote:
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VioLenceJak wrote:
yes i cant get the lords armour with phase acro or iron reflexes due to their high cost so i cant max my armour currenty so that is why i am trying to get more pdr from ascendancy.

i am not using the arakali weapon, it is too clunky and useless during boss fights and i dont know how much damage the spiders do, and withering touch is a chance to poison not guaranteed. and since i am melee cyclone i am using anomalous withering step to give a good amount of stacks immediately even though not max stacks. but to also trigger molten shell for defensive up time and trigger spirit offering for more damage. i was lucky to find this trigger claw cheap at an early time, seems they got expensive. i enchanted it with 30+% minion damage to compensate for the spiders lost.

i am already having doubts about this setup because the agony guy cant seem to attack everything all the time. perhaps it would be better for trials but changed during bosses. but ditching the writhing jar and depending on mob kills ( ithought it didnt work because of the "YOU" modifier)


Arakaali's spiders almost doubles your damage, you have to count 15 withers in and when you use blindings (25% more ehp) or knockbacks there are more benefits possible. The spiders alone reach only 2 mill., but synergize perfect with the HoA in all setups. Withering touch is best for 15 withers. The spiders alone can clean t15 maps nice.

Withers of withering step are only fine for speedmapping when you rush through maps without using skills.
When you cyclone or use skills they are debuffed to 0.

When you use the build more closely you get more defensive and offensive increasements.



ok but during boss fights writhing jar sucks i would need a vaal breach somewhere.


I don't seem to have an issue on bosses with the worms. Desecrate twice, use writhing jar, then use frost blink or ice nova or whatever your skill of choice is. You just have to be quick and use your skill within a second of using the flask or your crawler will kill them instead.
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stoudtlr wrote:


I don't seem to have an issue on bosses with the worms. Desecrate twice, use writhing jar, then use frost blink or ice nova or whatever your skill of choice is. You just have to be quick and use your skill within a second of using the flask or your crawler will kill them instead.


the issue is during a long boss fight they will disappear and you dont have time to do that combo again, too busy keeping poison stacks or dodging mechanics. and also writhing charges...

well i tested, because of the cyclone i dont need ice nova, will try this again.
Last edited by VioLenceJak on Jun 8, 2021, 10:51:49 AM
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VioLenceJak wrote:
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Chromino wrote:

When you cyclone or use skills they are debuffed to 0.




but that only applies to the elusive right? not the wither stacks, those have 4 second duration i think.


Sorry, no.

"Withering Step is a movement skill that applies Elusive and Phasing on use. Enemies that get near you while you have Elusive receive multiple stacks of Withered, causing them to take increased chaos damage. Using any skill ends Withering Step's effects and removes all buffs."

https://pathofexile.fandom.com/wiki/Withering_Step

Only while you are elusive. Withers of Withering step works only for speedmapping and not continuous.
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Chromino wrote:
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VioLenceJak wrote:
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Chromino wrote:

When you cyclone or use skills they are debuffed to 0.




but that only applies to the elusive right? not the wither stacks, those have 4 second duration i think.


Sorry, no.

"Withering Step is a movement skill that applies Elusive and Phasing on use. Enemies that get near you while you have Elusive receive multiple stacks of Withered, causing them to take increased chaos damage. Using any skill ends Withering Step's effects and removes all buffs."

https://pathofexile.fandom.com/wiki/Withering_Step

Only while you are elusive. Withers of Withering step works only for speedmapping and not continuous.


ah ok back to allstar spiders then thanks a lot
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VioLenceJak wrote:
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stoudtlr wrote:


I don't seem to have an issue on bosses with the worms. Desecrate twice, use writhing jar, then use frost blink or ice nova or whatever your skill of choice is. You just have to be quick and use your skill within a second of using the flask or your crawler will kill them instead.


the issue is during a long boss fight they will disappear and you dont have time to do that combo again, too busy keeping poison stacks or dodging mechanics. and also writhing charges...

well i tested, because of the cyclone i dont need ice nova, will try this again.


A ok. With the withering debuff they give they add a lot to the damage so I always take the couple seconds to resummon them in those long fights, but I do agree that it's tedious and wish there was an easier way.

On a unrelated note, hit me up in game if you see me on. I have a 2b, 2r, 2g Skin of the Lords with phase acrobatics I'll give you if you are trying to push 100 by league end. I've hit my 100 already so not using it any more.
Last edited by stoudtlr on Jun 8, 2021, 10:56:44 AM
thanks for the offer but dont i need resolute for cyclone? i wish there was an easier way, perhaps aul free percision or somethin.

RE: alternative shield, there is a elegant hubris keystone notable called supreme decadence which allows life flasks to recover your energy shield. so you could use a flask like "blood of the karui" for fast energy shield regen. i think this ultimately would be the case for more difficult stuff where you cant just depend on es on block and will have to flask piano anyway. and that way you can get more offensive stuff on shield. but keep in mind it gives 1000 armour doubled to 2000 because of skin of the lords.
Last edited by VioLenceJak on Jun 8, 2021, 11:32:26 AM
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antofazul wrote:
i love this build, im using a headhunter and its so fun haha im inmortal


Thank you a lot antofazul!
Cyclone is for generating virulence so you don't need resolute
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VioLenceJak wrote:
thanks for the offer but dont i need resolute for cyclone? i wish there was an easier way, perhaps aul free percision or somethin.

RE: alternative shield, there is a elegant hubris keystone notable called supreme decadence which allows life flasks to recover your energy shield. so you could use a flask like "blood of the karui" for fast energy shield regen. i think this ultimately would be the case for more difficult stuff where you cant just depend on es on block and will have to flask piano anyway. and that way you can get more offensive stuff on shield. but keep in mind it gives 1000 armour doubled to 2000 because of skin of the lords.



Remove your skin of the Lords and see what your accuracy is for cyclone without resolute technique. I've never tried the cyclone version so I'm not too sure how hard it is to maintain virulence with low accuracy. Maybe cwc ball lightning would work?

If you don't need resolute then phase acro is really the next best thing to iron reflexes. You don't get as much ES on block, but you also don't need as much since you get hit less frequently.
Last edited by stoudtlr on Jun 8, 2021, 2:36:08 PM

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