[3.14] Dejuvenate's Flameslinger Elementalist. Best League starter and unethical clear speed

Heyo,
what is the better ascendary node to use for Elemantalist? I've seen some people use the "Mastermind of Discord" node instead of "Shaper of Storms".
What is the reason behind it?

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iBlackSunv2 wrote:

Heyo,
what is the better ascendary node to use for Elemantalist? I've seen some people use the "Mastermind of Discord" node instead of "Shaper of Storms".
What is the reason behind it?

It is simple, if the archdemon crown does work with mastermind of discord it is obvious choice BUT we do not know that it does, while we know for sure that shaper of storms does.

So maybe 20% more damage or for sure 11% more damage is where we are at.

I have just tried Mastermind of Discord together with Archdemon Crown in PvP and can confirm that it does work, my friend went from 32 to -3 resistance, like you would expect.

PoB still says Shaper of Storms is better individually (roughly 50k higher dps in my case), but Mastermind of Discord allows us to take Heart of Destruction aswell, which gives me 1.3m extra Sirus DPS.

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PoB still says Shaper of Storms is better individually (roughly 50k higher dps in my case), but Mastermind of Discord allows us to take Heart of Destruction aswell, which gives me 1.3m extra Sirus DPS.

But which second notable are you going to remove? There is a choice between elemancer and bastion. Elemancer give elemental immunity, so free flask suffixes, Bastion provide big boost to elemental damage by primal aegis and reflect immunity. Or you have big pool of eHP, so don't care about that?

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Oblachko_O wrote:

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PoB still says Shaper of Storms is better individually (roughly 50k higher dps in my case), but Mastermind of Discord allows us to take Heart of Destruction aswell, which gives me 1.3m extra Sirus DPS.

But which second notable are you going to remove? There is a choice between elemancer and bastion. Elemancer give elemental immunity, so free flask suffixes, Bastion provide big boost to elemental damage by primal aegis and reflect immunity. Or you have big pool of eHP, so don't care about that?

I can guarantee that he has not enough ehp to not care about that, he is just living on the edge.


Because i do not use malachai ring for map clear i'll assume that this 25% bonus will result in more instead of less dps for me personally, thanks for testing that out Berg Michel

EDIT: So i've used TheKurosawa pastebin that he made for me and indeed i've gained nearly 70k dps by this switch.
thx again kurosawa

Hey guys, getting kind of bored of the build and planning to do something else, so I'm going to shamelessly plug my gear and let you guys know that it's up for sale. You can hit me up ingame @McRazorsRitual

Here's my PoB https://pastebin.com/XbXWNNAB

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Oblachko_O wrote:

But which second notable are you going to remove? There is a choice between elemancer and bastion. Elemancer give elemental immunity, so free flask suffixes, Bastion provide big boost to elemental damage by primal aegis and reflect immunity. Or you have big pool of eHP, so don't care about that?

I removed Bastion of Elements. I'm using Divine Flesh at 83% chaos res currently and have roughly 5.8k HP, and since it feels like most big hits in this game are chaos/phys anyways (pretty much entire Sirus fight) I thought it wasn't worth a 1.3m dps difference.

In general I would highly recommend Divine Flesh for this build. Makes it very easy to sustain RF in most maps.

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BergMichel wrote:

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Oblachko_O wrote:

But which second notable are you going to remove? There is a choice between elemancer and bastion. Elemancer give elemental immunity, so free flask suffixes, Bastion provide big boost to elemental damage by primal aegis and reflect immunity. Or you have big pool of eHP, so don't care about that?

I removed Bastion of Elements. I'm using Divine Flesh at 83% chaos res currently and have roughly 5.8k HP, and since it feels like most big hits in this game are chaos/phys anyways (pretty much entire Sirus fight) I thought it wasn't worth a 1.3m dps difference.

In general I would highly recommend Divine Flesh for this build. Makes it very easy to sustain RF in most maps.

Divine flesh is indeed pretty good but that 4 second buff which activates exclusively vs unique enemy with 4second downtime per 8seconds is not worth this ascendancy change to pretty much anyone, unless you ofcourse for some reason do boss carry for other people with this build which would be quite strange.

I would even recommend not taking bastion but taking both shaper and mastermind instead of it. Simply because there is no downtime for that.

We have so much diminishing returns from area of effect that we stack from quality gems, passives and wand quality that the 60% increase does not do anything for us.

For people that do not know what we talk about ^ picture.

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CAKE wrote:

I would even recommend not taking bastion but taking both shaper and mastermind instead of it. Simply because there is no downtime for that.

For some reason I never even considered taking both Mastermind and Shaper, but you're obviously right that Shaper is better for most instances compared to Heart of Destruction, especially mapping.

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BergMichel wrote:

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CAKE wrote:

I would even recommend not taking bastion but taking both shaper and mastermind instead of it. Simply because there is no downtime for that.

For some reason I never even considered taking both Mastermind and Shaper, but you're obviously right that Shaper is better for most instances compared to Heart of Destruction, especially mapping.

We ended up helping each other, that is what makes these forum threads great.
I will drop bastion after my level up to 98 just to see how it feels.

But honestly at high end 1.5, 2, 2.5, 3 mil dps all feels the same to me in maps, i do not think dps was ever issue with this build. It has everything to do with the fact that we use dot, so while 2mil dps is not a lot, when u think about how we have 6 second duration for it that is 10mil damage per single cast. So you gotta do either boss or really beefy rare to feel like there is some dps lacking.

But I gotta admit that i'm pretty jealous of your chaos resistance. I got better PD mitigation, so it ends up being tradeoff but i'll try to get chaos res cap too (unless i quit to burn-out like i do every league)

What i'm looking at now is
>Malevolence bleed can not be inflicted on you
but i need lucky lab enchant to make it work
Untill then I'm using purity of elements to convert PD to elemental damage that i take. Reducing all pd hits by over 80% so the bleed does not end up being instant kill on movement cast.

I do not think PD is even problem if it does not inflict bleed, that is why the malevolence is tempting.