[3.14] Dejuvenate's Flameslinger Elementalist. Best League starter and unethical clear speed

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SASpoonMan wrote:

Also, everyone is hurting their survivability by taking Glancing Blows without getting life recovery on block. Either use block as chance for full mitigation or use Glancing Blows to max block to proc recovery. Getting 75% block to just take 100% or 65% of the damage is not doing anyone any good.

Not sure I follow. Would you mind sharing more about this? Haven't really found life recovery on block nodes.

If you have a minute, would you be able to take a look at my tree (char is public) and tell me if I'm just doing it wrong with the block?

Seems like understanding the mechanic is more than I thought it would be

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Cry0nicS wrote:

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SASpoonMan wrote:

Also, everyone is hurting their survivability by taking Glancing Blows without getting life recovery on block. Either use block as chance for full mitigation or use Glancing Blows to max block to proc recovery. Getting 75% block to just take 100% or 65% of the damage is not doing anyone any good.

Not sure I follow. Would you mind sharing more about this? Haven't really found life recovery on block nodes.

If you have a minute, would you be able to take a look at my tree (char is public) and tell me if I'm just doing it wrong with the block?

Seems like understanding the mechanic is more than I thought it would be

Must either by Necro/Scion and use Bone Offering, or get an influenced shield with 5% recovery on block.

Bit of an update since I have been going pretty hard on this build for the last week, love the community here with everyone giving feedback and ideas.

Roughly 4.5mil dps without frenzy and capped chaos res. Working on some big boy gloves that will give another 10% damage or so once I complete them.

Been working on Harvest crafting some pieces (shit is really rare though, feels like 1 in 30 maps or so.



Thanks again to dejuvenate for the framework of the build, been a blast to adapt and improve on it.

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SASpoonMan wrote:

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Also, everyone is hurting their survivability by taking Glancing Blows without getting life recovery on block. Either use block as chance for full mitigation or use Glancing Blows to max block to proc recovery. Getting 75% block to just take 100% or 65% of the damage is not doing anyone any good.

Thank you for bringing this to everyone's attention. I have been tinkering on this build some more and been wondering if "take glancing blow if you stack block" is incorrect.

For those who wonder, glancing blow used to reduce dmg taken when you block to 50%. Now it is at 65\. GB is taken to reduce damage spikyness. Better to take a bunch of 10s than take nothing then 20s every now and then (old school wow tank concept).

Assuming you cap block with GB, 75% of the time you take 65% of the dmg, and 25% of the time you take 100% of the dmg. Resulting in taking 73.75% of the overall damage.

Assuming you are at 38% block without GB.

38% of the time you take 0, and 62% of the time you take 100%. On average you take 62% of the average damage.

Actually taking GB is a survivability loss.. damn

A quick napkin math shows GB is worse off at any point of block and spellblock, unless you take lgob or something like bone offering.

Thanks @SASpoonman for bringing this up. This frees up 2 extra points :)

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schraegstrich wrote:

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Mutant21slayer wrote:

Has anyone actually tried using Kinetic BOLT instead of Blast? Seems better to me... Awesome clear speed and more base damage...

yeah i tested it thoroughly. its dogshit for clear. with chain barrage volley fork pierce in all combinations. the problem is the trash proj speed. its suuuper slow and my shield charge actually outruns the projectile. so i guess if your speed is shit its good clear but if you are even a little bit zooming i highly prefer kb. i really wanted to like it..

Just use Faster projectiles kek

guys, so i was unhappy with this to me new information(because i did not bother to realize golems shoot projectiles that gain fire from firewall) that made me think of ring alternative to replace malachai.
My wall AOE is really big and i just can not be bothered to have pixel perfect wall placement, i want to no-brain click one button and pick exalts.

Then I begun to wonder, maybe take hp+chaos res ring? survival is not bad
BUT then in ritual i've seen Hungry Loop unique.

What could we throw in there that would be real interesting except curse?

It is basically 5link avaible to us 4supports 1 active.

Could we for example socket stone golem there, with infernal legion, increased minion life gem and increased area of effect?

Or you have some much better idea, maybe other ring?

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CAKE wrote:

guys, so i was unhappy with this to me new information(because i did not bother to realize golems shoot projectiles that gain fire from firewall) that made me think of ring alternative to replace malachai.
My wall AOE is really big and i just can not be bothered to have pixel perfect wall placement, i want to no-brain click one button and pick exalts.

Then I begun to wonder, maybe take hp+chaos res ring? survival is not bad
BUT then in ritual i've seen Hungry Loop unique.

What could we throw in there that would be real interesting except curse?

It is basically 5link avaible to us 4supports 1 active.

Could we for example socket stone golem there, with infernal legion, increased minion life gem and increased area of effect?

Or you have some much better idea, maybe other ring?

Can always just do the original idea in the post and put a storm brand in the malachai's ring. As long as you have no added fire/colddamage to spells that'll work fine for single target dps.

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Adamisgr8 wrote:

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CAKE wrote:

guys, so i was unhappy with this to me new information(because i did not bother to realize golems shoot projectiles that gain fire from firewall) that made me think of ring alternative to replace malachai.
My wall AOE is really big and i just can not be bothered to have pixel perfect wall placement, i want to no-brain click one button and pick exalts.

Then I begun to wonder, maybe take hp+chaos res ring? survival is not bad
BUT then in ritual i've seen Hungry Loop unique.

What could we throw in there that would be real interesting except curse?

It is basically 5link avaible to us 4supports 1 active.

Could we for example socket stone golem there, with infernal legion, increased minion life gem and increased area of effect?

Or you have some much better idea, maybe other ring?

Can always just do the original idea in the post and put a storm brand in the malachai's ring. As long as you have no added fire/colddamage to spells that'll work fine for single target dps.

That is true but i m out of sockets and honestly i m too lazy to click additional button just for that :D i m using empower with golem gems to get them to next tier of buff, it will take a while to craft better gloves

Also here is picture why i just doubt we get relliable benefit from lighting golems in end-game, also not placing wall directly at boss is like 600k dps loss. Tooltip for primary wall damage is 200k so just focusing on the secondary debuff seems like waste to me.

I gotta be more honest with u guys, i m lazy and flame dash+right click is the most buttons i'll click without getting crippling depression. :^)

Managed to make a thing

can anyone share some crafting tips for the +1/+1 wand?