[3.14] Odif's Old Obsolete Skel Mage Guide, New one is in a new thread
" Last league i used Death Attunement and Ravenous Horde. This league i might try something defensive, to buff mom/agnostic even more, like Crystal Skin. But i still dont have an amulet worth investing into... |
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I decided to test MoM/agnostic in T19/delirium maps as fast as possible, because later in league its harder to make it profitable without any lucky drops, but today some i86+ white bases can still cover the price of runs.
And works, kinda. Delirium orbs are crazy expensive now, so i was only running 20% to increase number of mobs. Not a single death, but i was unable to fully clear Alva, and Ultimatum encounter i didnt even tryed - the damage is just not there, yet. I guess i need start working on amulet and AG setup now... BTW, i was checking out other people on poe.ninja, with filter to "agnostic/breathstealer/death reckoning", and it looks like pretty much everyone else is doing thing differently then me this league. I'm the only one not using Alberons (this one i get, but i have my reasons), everyone is using Rumi (i dont because with Bone Offering i'm block capped already). Then there are some new things: - everyone else is using Kitava's Teaching. Is it really worth it? I mean, 5% every second sounds OP, but what if there are no corpses, boss fights? - everyone else is using Xibaqua Glorious Vanity. Any idea what exactly is that for? EDIT: Ehm, i'm an idiot, i see it now, they are clearly just abusing the Agnostic node with Glorious Vanity, fake Agnostic followers! :-) Last edited by evilmindcz#6356 on Apr 23, 2021, 9:38:55 AM
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Ok, Build Guide got so big, it exceeded the character limit, its now spread over 2 posts.
I added a section about Femurs of the Saints staff. ULTIMATUM ONLY LEAGUE SUGGESTIONS Defense is SO important in Ultimatum league. When you can afford it, buy a 6l Femurs of the Saint staff. Spec out of Glancing Blows, and any shield nodes you might have. Spec into the Staff Block nodes Whirling Barrier Put your Skeletons in the Staff Put what was in the wand and shield into the body armor. This means you dont need to 6l the body armor, and can buy a high defense body armor. You will need to hand cast Bone Offering. | |
" Ahh thanks and also to the person below who clarified Spell Echo. You're both awesome. |
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Hey team, I'm a super noob trying to figure things out and would appreciate some help if possible. Trying to figure out why i can only have 8 skeletons currently. I keep seeing the number 15 as how many i should have but how do I increase my number of skeletons?
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" its up to 15 max, your not going to have that many though your going to have 9-11 depending on your gear and gem level, the 15 max only comes into play when using vaal summon skeleton |
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" ohhh wow that helps a lot, thanks you!! |
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First time running this build, decided to use it as a league starter to transition to other builds but I've had a lot of fun and success with this so I just wanted to share my thoughts and tips so far. People are recommending the MoM (mind over matter) + agnostic variant, and while it seems powerful, mine is just a regular build that doesn't use that, and I've found that it works fine. First off, thank you for the amazing guide, the leveling section and gear section are great and easy to follow, and it was one of the smoothest leveling experiences I've had. The only problem I had was that after getting to about early red maps I found myself hitting a wall and didn't really have a strong reference to transition, so I followed some of the replies + poe ninja builds to make my own transition so I want to share my process and what upgrades I prioritized first. IM NOT SAYING THIS IS THE BEST WAY TO BUILD OR THIS IS HOW IT SHOULD BE DONE, I'm just putting this out there to help out people who might be feeling a little lost or on the fence with this. The prices I'm stating are what I bought them for at the time, they could be different. I've only done A7 sirus, so I'm not at the deepest end game. It's a real slog getting the conq spawns and I will follow up with a post after I've done A8 most likely, but on top of A7 I've done shaper/elder/the formed/all ultimatums in maps to the end completely minus some freak deaths. I went all the way to t16 on a tabula because I was trying to 6L my own fleshcrafter, but obviously get the dead reckoning jewel ASAP. It may be on the expensive side but it's an investment into the build that really enables it. I never had any issues with my resists, this build and tree really gives you a lot of free resists so that was nice. For dexterity problems, I took the expertise on the tree, and got the rest of the missing dex on my ring/amulet. So my order of upgrades was: Dead reckoning ASAP I bought this for 35c but I hear its lower now +1 all spell skill gems wand 5-10c Magna Eclipsis tower shield, I found the elemental aegis passive to be fantastic here 3C Basic rings/gloves/boots for any missing dex/life/res total maybe 20ishC any talisman that had death attunement on it to save oil money 15C +2 minion helm and socketed zombies into it 2C All the above should run fairly cheap overall and that setup got me to t16 but I had some trouble with ultimatums at that point so I had to consider more upgrades. Also I had been manually casting desecrate + bone offering since no trigger wand, which is perfectly fine. Bigger upgrades after that 12 passive cluster jewel with minion damage implicit, nodes are: added small passives skills grant minion attack and cast speed (important) added small passive skills grant % increased effect (important) other nodes can be anything for the build No notables were taken on purpose so I can get more small nodes with minion damage/speed Placed a fortress covenant and quickening covenant in the 2 jewel sockets Price for base cluster jewel 50c + 2 covenants about 5c for 55c total I dropped some health nodes to make room for the 12 cluster nodes. +3 minion helm with minion life (important to get life) I socketed stone golem, raise spectre, animate guardian and meat shield. Using a carnage chieftan and host chieftan ( both found in ashen woods) and 2 undying evangelist (found in tower of god or whatever the act 3 tower is). Price was 2ex For people who might not know what to put in their animate guardian, I do a cheap setup with leer cast/dying breath/victarios flight/southbound gloves for hp/generic chest with 100+hp and %increased hp. He almost never dies and is really cheap to replace if he does. I'm planning to upgrade him with kingmaker + more expensive gear with I have the extra money but those upgrades will be last. 6L fleshcrafter, I linked it myself but you can buy it if you want. With a fleshcrafter I dropped Elemental Equilibrium and the storm brand link, gave me space to socket a 4 link zombie setup in boots. Zombie/multi strike, feeding frenzy, meat shield. Also replaced elemental army gem for greater multiple projectile support in my 6L. I think 6L price is around 6ex? IF YOU DONT HAVE FLESHCRAFTER KEEP EE AND STORM BRAND, its ok to run a tabula I was doing fine with that. Since no trigger wand still, I had a 4l setup of arcanist brand/desecrate/flesh offering/increased duration to trigger the skills, and I cast it generally only on bosses or elites that live for longer than 2 seconds. I dropped bone offering entirely and respecced from mistress of sacrifice to commander of darkness for more damage and speed, and ran a rumi's concoction to buff my block. Also added snipers mark to manually cast as well for more damage. Saved up a lot and got a +1 skill gems, +1 minion gems convoking wand with some nice minion modifiers. Price was 6ex but you can cut some minion damage mods and get a cheaper one. The double +1s are important. +1 intelligence skill gems jade amulet, jade amulet or a base that gives dex and int are recommended. Price 2-3ex Breathstealer, these are amazing for ultimatums, but I don't recommend getting it before the other gear, they work off you actually being able to kill stuff. Price 2ex I'm currently saving up for a torrent's reclamation belt (12-13ex), and then i will upgrade to awakened gems after that. One final note is that while most people are recommending a lot of defense for the ultimatums, I've actually found that going more into damage has done wonders for me, I've been able to essentially survive in the ultimatums by killing most things. I just drop skeletons, run in circles, cast arcanist brand and keep moving, and I generally don't fail them. However MoM variant might be more comfortable to play, I haven't had the chance to try it. Sorry for the long post, but I've noticed some people are a little lost, so I hope this helps. Thanks again for the great guide! My poe ninja below for reference https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds/char/DeluxeSandwich/IzaroXCavasXX?i=16&search=item%3DRumis-Concoction%2CDead-Reckoning%2CFortress-Covenant%2CBreathstealer%26skill%3DVaal-Summon-Skeletons%26dps%3DSummon-Skeletons Last edited by DeluxeSandwich#5944 on Apr 23, 2021, 9:30:05 PM
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" I Got a lot of tips from your profile, and once again thanks for the tips i will try the kitava's teaching now, looks insanely OP for Ultimatum! |
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What unique jewel shoudl I go with? Fortress Covenant, Quickening covenant, From Dust, To Dust?
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