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DanielAppelkvist wrote:
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Hemzokuken wrote:
What should the rough calc be though on dps if we work it out between 4 spectres?
Id say if you can have 500k per police dagger without vaal haste+avian buffs thats like temporary burst its fine for alot of stuff..
But assuming you wanna do T18-t19 100% delerium maps with beyond mods you probally want to try to get as much as you can.
Key elements for damage increase would be:
1 Get a good hubris. Mine is 15% aura effect and 240% minion dmg.
2 Get 150% carrion buff enchant on helmet as he scale Flat phys to non golem minions
Try to link Dreadbanner+Vitality with Enhance and you can have close to 100% impale chance without rotten claws. vicious bite clusters are great, but expensive but 30% crit multiplier extra is kinda huge on top of everything else.
Its the synergy of good stuff that makes the damage high.
Happy min maxing :)
I'm 100% impale change already and the PoB isn't taking into account Spell echo and GMP so x the police dagger figure by 8 compared to yours.
I get 100% impale from divergent dread banner with 320% aura effect then 20% rotten claws in large cluster.
Not worth having carrion buff enchant, better off using an empower in gloves to give carrion +3 to levels instead.
240% minion damage isn't worth it for what you lose, the way I've gone in the tree is far tankier for you and your minions.
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Posted byHemzokuken#3433on Nov 5, 2020, 6:49:49 AM
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Sorry guys excuse the golem side of things, it deleted the linked items when I added more linked items in spectre part for some reason. (If anyone has an idea why let me know as I'm stumped)
I'll get around to fixing it soon.
Spectre part is good to go. :)
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Posted byHemzokuken#3433on Nov 5, 2020, 6:57:36 AM
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Hemzokuken wrote:
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DanielAppelkvist wrote:
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Hemzokuken wrote:
What should the rough calc be though on dps if we work it out between 4 spectres?
Id say if you can have 500k per police dagger without vaal haste+avian buffs thats like temporary burst its fine for alot of stuff..
But assuming you wanna do T18-t19 100% delerium maps with beyond mods you probally want to try to get as much as you can.
Key elements for damage increase would be:
1 Get a good hubris. Mine is 15% aura effect and 240% minion dmg.
2 Get 150% carrion buff enchant on helmet as he scale Flat phys to non golem minions
Try to link Dreadbanner+Vitality with Enhance and you can have close to 100% impale chance without rotten claws. vicious bite clusters are great, but expensive but 30% crit multiplier extra is kinda huge on top of everything else.
Its the synergy of good stuff that makes the damage high.
Happy min maxing :)
I'm 100% impale change already and the PoB isn't taking into account Spell echo and GMP so x the police dagger figure by 8 compared to yours.
I get 100% impale from divergent dread banner with 320% aura effect then 20% rotten claws in large cluster.
Not worth having carrion buff enchant, better off using an empower in gloves to give carrion +3 to levels instead.
240% minion damage isn't worth it for what you lose, the way I've gone in the tree is far tankier for you and your minions.
actuaaaally... his setup is better in every single way.
he still has 90% phys reduction.
he has a shit ton more block on minions (bone offering)
240% minion damage is around 33% more damage (just put in PoB to see yourself)
I explained you before in game that the flat phys granted by carrion is applied to your spectres before all other modifiers - 150% increased effect of that buff is about 2.5x more then +3 levels would give - so yes his enchant is a ton better.
in short: his version really is a lot better. Obviously it's also quite a bit more expensive (vicious bite clusters are a "few" ex) :)
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Posted byfalagar112#0878on Nov 5, 2020, 7:02:24 AM
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Hemzokuken wrote:
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DanielAppelkvist wrote:
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Hemzokuken wrote:
What should the rough calc be though on dps if we work it out between 4 spectres?
Id say if you can have 500k per police dagger without vaal haste+avian buffs thats like temporary burst its fine for alot of stuff..
But assuming you wanna do T18-t19 100% delerium maps with beyond mods you probally want to try to get as much as you can.
Key elements for damage increase would be:
1 Get a good hubris. Mine is 15% aura effect and 240% minion dmg.
2 Get 150% carrion buff enchant on helmet as he scale Flat phys to non golem minions
Try to link Dreadbanner+Vitality with Enhance and you can have close to 100% impale chance without rotten claws. vicious bite clusters are great, but expensive but 30% crit multiplier extra is kinda huge on top of everything else.
Its the synergy of good stuff that makes the damage high.
Happy min maxing :)
I'm 100% impale change already and the PoB isn't taking into account Spell echo and GMP so x the police dagger figure by 8 compared to yours.
I get 100% impale from divergent dread banner with 320% aura effect then 20% rotten claws in large cluster.
Not worth having carrion buff enchant, better off using an empower in gloves to give carrion +3 to levels instead.
240% minion damage isn't worth it for what you lose, the way I've gone in the tree is far tankier for you and your minions.
What are you talking about? I am using gmp + spell echo you watched the pob with 5.1m wihtout spell echo + gmp i am not playing like that it was only an example.
The +150% enchant is the greatest dps enchant on helmet if you can work around RMR for it on top of that empower as you mentioned would boost it even more. (Becoming more expensive as you need rmr elsewhere)
I think my spectres shooting the same numbers of projectiles like yours i wouldnt ever consider to run without gmp its for all content :)
And why do you consider your build is more tanky? im at 90% phys reduction, 90% max res evasion is like 69% and dread bannner accuracy reduction makes it close to 90% miss chance... on top of that im using Bone offering for harder conntet so i have also 64% block chance. I have 97% impale chance, if i get a shield with +aura effect im going to have 100% impale chance aswell.
I didnt die on this build since like lvl 97 and its lvl 100 now. Using bone offering you get an Effective health pool up to 400k+ to physical/elemental damage.... On top of that very very fast movement speed with phase run
I see your build has around 140k effective health pool to elemental damage in POB
Your build is more budget option as i mention earlier mine is more firepower, alot more lol. And even from comparison in numbers my pob can take more then double damage then yours so its stronger in all comparisons
https://pastebin.com/4Qhd0hz5 (Check the POB with 1.55m Police daggers using gmp+spellecho)
Your POB getting 495k per police dagger with vaal haste up.
Last edited by DanielAppelkvist#7102 on Nov 5, 2020, 7:14:05 AM
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Hi for the Vaal Regalia chest you said "You can bench force 6 socket and 6 link the +16% enchant. (Might get patched)". Can you explain what that means? It's not in the crafting guide.
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Posted byKaideraider#3005on Nov 5, 2020, 7:14:03 AM
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Cheers still trying to get my head around this all. I wish it worked like redemption sentries and actually showed legit dps of 100m+
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Posted byHemzokuken#3433on Nov 5, 2020, 7:22:57 AM
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Kaideraider wrote:
Hi for the Vaal Regalia chest you said "You can bench force 6 socket and 6 link the +16% enchant. (Might get patched)". Can you explain what that means? It's not in the crafting guide.
Use a bench recipe for 6L socket with 1500 fusings.
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Posted byHemzokuken#3433on Nov 5, 2020, 7:23:20 AM
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Hey, sorry for general n00b Q.
Currently playing Radiating carrion golems from this forum and am lvl 98. Have maybe 15ex atm. Is this build significantly better? Worth trying to do a switcharoo? I think u can check my char on here if anyone has the time and wants to help...
Thanks a bunch either way
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Posted byMasterBK#0818on Nov 5, 2020, 7:47:51 AM
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Just some things from the Spectre Builds
Volley is better than GMP unless awakened the spectres ignore the projectile spread from gem and only use the nr of projectiles
If i got it right, the cast rate of daggers is not relevant, instand the rate of the trigger skill (the one below police daggers) counts
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Posted byBrutus_4711#3958on Nov 5, 2020, 8:06:44 AM
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Just some things from the Spectre Builds
Volley is better than GMP unless awakened the spectres ignore the projectile spread from gem and only use the nr of projectiles
If i got it right, the cast rate of daggers is not relevant, instand the rate of the trigger skill (the one below police daggers) counts
Thanks I'll try that now.
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Posted byTurbo32#5327on Nov 5, 2020, 11:55:59 AM
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