[3.13] Hemz [CI] Carrion Me Daddy Golems with 83/88/84/100 resistances 10M DPS

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Mephisto415 wrote:

finally sold my +2 duration gem saqawals after a few weeks for 350ex, the money of which I'm using to fund trying out the cold version of the spectre build

here's the gear I've collected so far

lots of expensive RMR jewels so I can fit the hatred and zealotry in. Gonna see if I can still use headhunter or not, if not got the darkness enthroned to deal with the mana issue.

Once I get it fully up and running I'll report back with how it is.

I want to point out ur helm has a +3% spell crit.
That's very interesting because it means it might be able to unlock a lot of potential dps for the FAS spectres.

Although on POEdb it says FAS has a 5% crit base but when kuthas45 tested with the gain power charge on crit gem, they never get power charges.
Thus proving they can't crit.

So now I'm wondering, would your bone helm unlock crit for them, or would it still stay zero?

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Turbo32 wrote:

I want to point out ur helm has a +3% spell crit.
That's very interesting because it means it might be able to unlock a lot of potential dps for the FAS spectres.

Although on POEdb it says FAS has a 5% crit base but when kuthas45 tested with the gain power charge on crit gem, they never get power charges.
Thus proving they can't crit.

So now I'm wondering, would your bone helm unlock crit for them, or would it still stay zero?

I'd always heard that spell crit works with SO, dunno about FAS though. A few guides at the beginning of the league basically showed this helm as the absolute best in slot for SO (I guess even better would be if it also had socketed gems deal 30% increased elemental dmg as well). Hope they were right lol.

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Turbo32 wrote:

Although on POEdb it says FAS has a 5% crit base but when kuthas45 tested with the gain power charge on crit gem, they never get power charges.

All minions have 5% base crit but that is for their default attacks.

Minion spells have own crit chance. For example BP has 32% crit on ball lightning. FAS has 0% crit on projectile and mortar.

Unfortunately poedb doesn't show full info. you need to use py_poe or pob dev build to see it. (I used pob dev build to add FAS to community fork}

We tested FAS at start of league with spell crit helmet. It just gives them 3% base crit. It's not enough to make crit helmet useful for them.

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kayella wrote:

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Turbo32 wrote:

Although on POEdb it says FAS has a 5% crit base but when kuthas45 tested with the gain power charge on crit gem, they never get power charges.

All minions have 5% base crit but that is for their default attacks.

Minion spells have own crit chance. For example BP has 32% crit on ball lightning. FAS has 0% crit on projectile and mortar.

Unfortunately poedb doesn't show full info. you need to use py_poe or pob dev build to see it. (I used pob dev build to add FAS to community fork}

We tested FAS at start of league with spell crit helmet. It just gives them 3% base crit. It's not enough to make crit helmet useful for them.

Ok that makes a lot of sense now.
But I have a noob question, how do I gain access to POB dev build, I couldn't find anything about it on Google and YT.

And I looked up py_poe but it looks like I'll need to learn how to use python and I have zero knowledge on computer programming language.

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Mephisto415 wrote:

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Turbo32 wrote:

I want to point out ur helm has a +3% spell crit.
That's very interesting because it means it might be able to unlock a lot of potential dps for the FAS spectres.

Although on POEdb it says FAS has a 5% crit base but when kuthas45 tested with the gain power charge on crit gem, they never get power charges.
Thus proving they can't crit.

So now I'm wondering, would your bone helm unlock crit for them, or would it still stay zero?

I'd always heard that spell crit works with SO, dunno about FAS though. A few guides at the beginning of the league basically showed this helm as the absolute best in slot for SO (I guess even better would be if it also had socketed gems deal 30% increased elemental dmg as well). Hope they were right lol.

Also I'm not sure if inc spell dmg and spell crit can scale with SO spectres.
They are attack based spectres, the only spell is the trigger spell which they cast to shoot out secret police daggers.

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Turbo32 wrote:

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Mephisto415 wrote:

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Turbo32 wrote:

Also I'm not sure if inc spell dmg and spell crit can scale with SO spectres.
They are attack based spectres, the only spell is the trigger spell which they cast to shoot out secret police daggers.

aren't their police daggers the only relevant attack they use? it's the one they spam, and they're a triggered spell. So it seems like spell crit should scale with it, unless im missing something.

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Mephisto415 wrote:

aren't their police daggers the only relevant attack they use? it's the one they spam, and they're a triggered spell. So it seems like spell crit should scale with it, unless im missing something.

I'm not sure how they are triggered, but if its true as you said that they are triggered by crit then yes they should trigger more often and it would be more dps.

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Turbo32 wrote:

But I have a noob question, how do I gain access to POB dev build, I couldn't find anything about it on Google and YT.

Here:
https://github.com/PathOfBuildingCommunity/PathOfBuilding/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md


It's difficult to use though. I asked localidentity a lot of questions :\

Hello, I'm doing the scion with bow SO version

Looking for help for making it better

will leave my pob here: https://pastebin.com/P8J4N1cR

any help is highly appreciated

okay, so after about 450 ex spent acquiring more gear and tinkering with the build yesterday, I've come up with a cold ele conversion SO spectre build I'm pretty happy with (450 ex just getting the stuff required to switch to the cold version, not 450ex total for everything). Just did a t16 100% deli double beyond primordial pools deathless fairly easily, had to return to town twice to resummon spectres though.

Here's the gear:



Clusters



other jewels




running the 3 large cluster setup with renewal and vicious bite, raze and pillage is chosen for the 3rd because it's at the back of the cluster so you don't take it and only spend 5 points total for the 2 good passives and 2 jewel sockets

auras:
hatred
zealotry
flesh and stone
vitality
hatred
precision
POL
POI
POF
grace
haste
discipline
clarity lvl 1 (divergent - allies deal 20% increased dmg when on full mana - I remember someone testing this out on SO at some point in the league and saying it works)

then also aspect of the avian and skitterbots

pros:
dmg is absolute insane with the triple cluster setup and cold conversion. Just melts everything

cons (compared to the "standard" phys version of the build most people are playing):
- maybe a little squishier than my phys set up - about 5700 ES on this one vs 7800 ES on phys setup. This might be offset by the increased dmg so things die faster, not sure yet, need to play more for a better feel
- no head hunter buffs because need to wear the abyss belt for more mana reserved
- have to spend 4 points on a jewel socket for might of the meek for the extra mana reserved to fit all the auras (one reason for less ES in this version, other one being no shaper's touch)
- have to spend an insane amount of currency to get RMR on 8 jewels


overall it's been a fun project and goal to reach - making the money necessary for all the upgrades and something to work towards. Is it worth the extra money compared to the phys version? Hard to say at this point, need to test more.


Got a video uploading on youtube right now of the map I just ran, will post it once it's done rendering.