Curse Skills in Path of Exile: Heist

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WHY NOT CALL IT CURSES AND MARKS ???? WTF

Because Marks are curses, too? Man,...

I just really don't understand the complete removal of Assassin's Mark as we know it, it's basically a different skill entirely. Now I have to figure out what I'm going to replace it with as it's unusable entirely for my build. It's not even a nerf, it's a complete removal disguised as a rework. Should have just made a new gem entirely for this skill, which btw seems interesting to possiblely build with, but again for entirely different builds.

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fizzlevis wrote:

Bex said that bane isnt a selcast curse, so no doom

But Bane is a self cast curse... it makes no sense to say it is not since it is from it's description... I am not sure GGG even got an idea wtf they are doing at this point... every nerf seems to destroy even more than they where trying to destroy in the first part... i seriously can't get wtf they are thinking at this point.

Will punishment work with DoT?

Cause it sounds like a despair, enfeeble and temporal chains in one.

Guess i will never play any leech build xD
Or a curse build...
Or an Assassin..
Or 90% of the builds i played before

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Drimli wrote:

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fizzlevis wrote:

Bex said that bane isnt a selcast curse, so no doom

But Bane is a self cast curse... it makes no sense to say it is not since it is from it's description... I am not sure GGG even got an idea wtf they are doing at this point... every nerf seems to destroy even more than they where trying to destroy in the first part... i seriously can't get wtf they are thinking at this point.

Bane isn't a curse, it applies curses.
And in would be very op if they count as self cast.
The main thing about bane is teh option to cast 5 curces and make damage in once.

How will work Soul Mantle and Atziri's Mirror, any unique nerf's

Trust me this curse stuff will be shit without bane... he couldn't even kill a rare monster with it... And yes bane is a curse read the dang skill description... denying facts does not look good on you.

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Drimli wrote:

Trust me this curse stuff will be shit without bane... he couldn't even kill a rare monster with it... And yes bane is a curse read the dang skill description... denying facts does not look good on you.

It applies its debuff even on hexproof enemys.
It dosn't count towards curse limit.
Bane alone dosn't trigger profane bloom.
It dosn't benefit from %curse effect or similar mods.
You can't trigger bane with curse on hit or blasphemy.
So in most cases it dosn't count as a curse.

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ManaKeepSmiling wrote:

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Drimli wrote:

Trust me this curse stuff will be shit without bane... he couldn't even kill a rare monster with it... And yes bane is a curse read the dang skill description... denying facts does not look good on you.

It applies its debuff even on hexproof enemys.
It dosn't count towards curse limit.
Bane alone dosn't trigger profane bloom.
It dosn't benefit from %curse effect or similar mods.
You can't trigger bane with curse on hit or blasphemy.
So in most cases it dosn't count as a curse.

This didn't age well.