[3.16 - RETIRING BUILD] VD Brands: S-Tier Bosser, A-Tier Map! -- MURDERED BY GGG_INTERN SOMEWHERE--

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LaGueuze wrote:

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Hi mate, as much as I want to promote my build, VD has historically been horrible for PCs. I'm not sure how much better it is on a BAMA build but VD has been known to melt computers :(

The good news is, I'm actually going to make a "How to Play PoE on a Potato" video soon :) So I'll try to remember to PM you when that's out! (Or you could follow my YT channel and you'll see when I post it). I have a pretty shit computer too but with some tweaks I managed to make it work.

Hey mate, any advice on it plz?
Do DD/VD MTX help?

CPU is burning :)
Great guide BTW, thanks!

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Przeszczep wrote:

How do you move the gems around to fit Sigil of Power?

I've done some calculations regarding Phantasmal Desecrate and it seems to be beneficial (at least if I understand the math correctly). It spawns a Forgotten Corpse at 20% chance which is a Flickershade with 300% hp multiplier.

spectre_chance * spectre_hp + non_spectre_chance * random_hp - normal Desecrate
(spectre_chance * spectre_hp + non_spectre_chance * random_hp) * non_forgotten_chance + forgotten_hp * forgotten_chance - Phantasmal Desecrate

0.15*800+0.75*x < (0.15*800+0.75*x)*0.8 + 300*0.2
Solving this gives x < 240. Which means the corpses will have on average more hp as long as the random zone corpses have less than 240% hp multiplier.
If you assume the random mob has 100% hp multiplier:
((0.15*800+0.75*100)*0.8 + 300*0.2)/(0.15*800+0.75*100) ~= 1.11

Conclusion: Phantasmal Desecrate can give up to (maybe, possibly) 11% more average corpse life while also making the big spectre corpses appear 20% less often.

I've also looked through some poedb monster stats and most monsters seem to have around 100%-150% hp multiplier. Desecrated Bonestalkers have 90% so it could be a nice boost for bossing

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dksdragon wrote:

Hey there, enjoying the build so far. I haven't played a build that uses health based spectres in a while though, which ones do you use now? Crushclaw or the delve ones? Thanks!

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Przeszczep wrote:

I educated myself a bit more and it seems the formula for number of spectre corpses spawned is #_of_spectres/(#_of_spectres+#_of_zone_monsters).
This means Phantasmal Desecrate is better in areas with more monster types. Boss arenas have only one natural corpse which (with 2 spectres) gives 2/(1+2)=0.66 chance to spawn a spectre corpse.
After redoing the calculations:
10 zone monsters, 100% average hp - 1.09
10 zone monsters, 150% average hp - 1.05
1 zone monster (boss arena), 90% average hp - 0.9

Could be nice if you are running really hard maps and need the damage but for bossing normal Desecrate should be better.

Next task: count monster types in maps (I'm not doing it)