[3.16 - RETIRING BUILD] VD Brands: S-Tier Bosser, A-Tier Map! -- MURDERED BY GGG_INTERN SOMEWHERE--

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Larokan wrote:

Alright so i got my build ready to go. And you said in the Pro's and Con's that it has a high learning curve. I think thats totally true. I still don't really get how i get the most of it.

Do i just spawn 1 Arcanist Brand with VD and 1 with Desecrate and then run through the mobs while using Brand Recall? And if the Brands run out i just repeat with spawning them? How exactly does the "rotation" of this build work? I really like the playstyle but still need to figure out exactly how to play with it.


Edit: Okay, i definetly doing something wrong. I'm dying hard from the Shimmeron Damage, even though i completed the entire FAQ list. I have every necessary step done to sustain Shimmeron..but yeah.


Anyone any tips regarding playstyle and possible problems?

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primaeva wrote:

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Larokan wrote:

Alright so i got my build ready to go. And you said in the Pro's and Con's that it has a high learning curve. I think thats totally true. I still don't really get how i get the most of it.

Do i just spawn 1 Arcanist Brand with VD and 1 with Desecrate and then run through the mobs while using Brand Recall? And if the Brands run out i just repeat with spawning them? How exactly does the "rotation" of this build work? I really like the playstyle but still need to figure out exactly how to play with it.


Edit: Okay, i definetly doing something wrong. I'm dying hard from the Shimmeron Damage, even though i completed the entire FAQ list. I have every necessary step done to sustain Shimmeron..but yeah.


Anyone any tips regarding playstyle and possible problems?

You're not lightning res capped. xD

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Larokan wrote:

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primaeva wrote:

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Larokan wrote:

Alright so i got my build ready to go. And you said in the Pro's and Con's that it has a high learning curve. I think thats totally true. I still don't really get how i get the most of it.

Do i just spawn 1 Arcanist Brand with VD and 1 with Desecrate and then run through the mobs while using Brand Recall? And if the Brands run out i just repeat with spawning them? How exactly does the "rotation" of this build work? I really like the playstyle but still need to figure out exactly how to play with it.


Edit: Okay, i definetly doing something wrong. I'm dying hard from the Shimmeron Damage, even though i completed the entire FAQ list. I have every necessary step done to sustain Shimmeron..but yeah.


Anyone any tips regarding playstyle and possible problems?

You're not lightning res capped. xD

Don't know why PoB tells you that, but i'am O.o

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brianabcd wrote:

The discipline +es on hit seems to be pretty good for survivability?

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Zonktastic wrote:

Alright i've killed all Bosses in the Atlas now. 5,6k Life, 2,9k ES, 54 Chaos res currently (will be higher once i get chaos res on jewels)

Maven fight can be a bitch sometimes but is def doable. I usually log in the last Memory game and abuse immunity phase to skip it, can be done if you dodge perfectly tho. The other phases are pretty easy as you kill her pretty much instantly. Dodge the big purple laser from the Blob to avoid the no-leech debuff.

The Feared is also pretty easy, can be harder depending on mods. You need some kinda reflect immunity for the U-Atziri fight tho.

I crafted this for example. In the Feared fight you don't need the reflect immunity.

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Oh whoops, missed out on your Clusters. You're going to want to drop a power charge or 2 until your HP threshold hits about 4.5k HP and 2k ES, then it gets very sustainable. Shimmerons are flat damage. A lot of people ignore the "don't level as this build" and go in right as they can equip Shimmeron - when the value is so fixed, raw HP thresholds are what are gonna limit the recovery. Until you get that Base HP going do some of these steps.

1) Drop power charges

2) Ditch Undertaker for now and run Hematophagy

3) Run Purity of Lightning.

RE: Playstyle and rotation, i edited my above reply so have a look!

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Asterism wrote:

To lead off with, since the rest of this might sound a little negative--this is a build which absolutely delivers what it promises, which is an extremely potent boss killing build with absurd single target damage that it can keep up without having to continually cast. I tried it because it could share some of the expensive upgrades (dual influence frenzy/explode chest, woke spell cascade) with my BF/BB Chieftain, and I don't regret it at all. Besides, Arcanist brand is cool.

That said, my experience is that this is probably the clunkiest, rippiest character I've ever played in maps, and I'm no stranger to being bad at this game. With maybe 30 ex of stuff equipped, I still routinely die in regular unjuiced red maps.

The problem isn't the build! The problem is that with VD and Desecrate being looped at ridiculous speed, POE routinely drops into the single-digit framerates or hitches for almost a full second before trying to catch up. My machine isn't top-of-the-line, but a RTX 2060 and Kaby Lake i7 is still a lot better than what most people have, and that's with the Spectral MTX for VD which seems to render fewer particles.

TLDR: cool build! Just know what you're in for if you don't have a very nice computer.

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Larokan wrote:

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Oh whoops, missed out on your Clusters. You're going to want to drop a power charge or 2 until your HP threshold hits about 4.5k HP and 2k ES, then it gets very sustainable. Shimmerons are flat damage. A lot of people ignore the "don't level as this build" and go in right as they can equip Shimmeron - when the value is so fixed, raw HP thresholds are what are gonna limit the recovery. Until you get that Base HP going do some of these steps.

1) Drop power charges

2) Ditch Undertaker for now and run Hematophagy

3) Run Purity of Lightning.

RE: Playstyle and rotation, i edited my above reply so have a look!

Alright, thanks alot for your help. Yeah i thought it would be enough level, if i'm able to equip everything. But that was a bit overconfident i guess lol. I will drop 2 power charges for now, that seems okay.

But other than my self created problems, this build is insane nice and i really love the mechanics behind it!