[3.12] Radiating Carrion Golems. 90% resistances + 10-20 Mil DPS

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Lisann wrote:


This is misleading. In general, losing a golem is not a net dps loss if you are buffing the remaining 4, such as giving them +3 levels and such.

True

7K es means nothing against phy as LL....

False.
~6500k es and the only thing that kills me is if I was to afk Sirus.
A corrupted shield and a watcher's eye takes care of the phys damage just fine.
I walk through everything whilst scratching my butt. And my butt is very itchy.


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Alhanna wrote:
Can you please advise Marupok on how to improve his build instead of proving me wrong? He asked advice and I tried to help, so if you like to help also please do so, since this is not constructive.


It IS constructive, you just don't like it. I already gave a ton of general advice, it gets boring to cite myself every page on this thread, i even made pobs with tons of improvement ideas, a troubleshooting and all. Newcomers just won't read, at all, even if the post above them is an in-depth answer to their question.

Someone last page asked about aura effect and why he wasn't getting to 90 res, even though he believed he was getting to 300% effect. I explained to him why we wasnt at 300% and how to learn from it. How to config PoB and such. That is far more interesting than saying the same thing every other post.

tl/dr: people making the exact same questions every day isn't constructive, even more so if the answer is the exact same EVERY time.

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Pip_n_Tip wrote:


7K es means nothing against phy as LL....

False.
~6500k es and the only thing that kills me is if I was to afk Sirus.
A corrupted shield and a watcher's eye takes care of the phys damage just fine.
I walk through everything whilst scratching my butt. And my butt is very itchy.



If you only aim to do normal mapping and a aw8sirus every now and then, yeah, it's just fine. That is not nearly enough for hard content though. The regular LL with 'phy taken as ele' is nice and all for most 'regular' content, but it doesn't cut it. You will still die on i83 heists sometimes. Try doing t16 100% deliriums and such, or even regular semi-juiced t16 zana deliriums. Not only you will die from phy damage, your minions will literally melt.

Otherwise, grace+div determination wouldn't be SO good and allow people to literally afk-tank 100%del kosis+omni on <4k es. Or sirus' meteor.
Last edited by Lisann#6312 on Dec 1, 2020, 10:48:50 AM
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Lisann wrote:


If you only aim to do normal mapping and a aw8sirus every now and then, yeah, it's just fine. That is not nearly enough for hard content though. The regular LL with 'phy taken as ele' is nice and all for most 'regular' content, but it doesn't cut it. Try doing t16 100% deliriums and such, or even regular semi-juiced t16 zana deliriums. Not only you will die from phy damage, your minions will literally melt.

Otherwise, grace+div determination wouldn't be SO good.


Again. /sigh. This is false information.
I have, I have, and I have.
My minions never die. Nor do I. (Not entirely true...I always avoid Sirus when trying to level.)
Your hitting that CI-build pipe a tad too much.
I'm confident the CI build is great, better than the LL build, but you may want to try a built LL build before handing out your "advice" to others.
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Lisann wrote:
Try playing with that page. Es is worthless, you are already using 2 preffixes, you might as well try and get another support affix or +1craft. Attributes don't have a tag on fossils, so no.




now i got the right prefix but i realize i did not 30% the quality , should i slam prefix cannot be changed and scour?
and spam exalt annul till i get t1 chaos resist and int?

any tips/suggestion on what to do next
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Pip_n_Tip wrote:

Again. /sigh. This is false information.
I have, I have, and I have.
My minions never die. Nor do I. (Not entirely true...I always avoid Sirus when trying to level.)
Your hitting that CI-build pipe a tad too much.
I'm confident the CI build is great, better than the LL build, but you may want to try a built LL build before handing out your "advice" to others.


I tried the LL version, and used it up to lvl 97ish, minmaxed it far beyond your current lackluster setup. Minions still died, even on just 4sextant 4scarab zanadeli beyond tropicals. That's the main reason i swapped to CI. So you are either doing vanilla content (as i said, LL is fine for regular mapping), or you are lying.

But what do i know...

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Sisilim wrote:



now i got the right prefix but i realize i did not 30% the quality , should i slam prefix cannot be changed and scour?
and spam exalt annul till i get t1 chaos resist and int?

any tips/suggestion on what to do next


You can always hillock 28%q from syndicate. Metacrafting suffixes will get expensive, fast. Int is just icing on the cake. If crafted chaos res isn't enough, look first if you cant buy better rares with chaos res for the rest of you gear, or if it's worth it to gamble 100+ exs into this. I'd maybe just scour suffixes, and use aisling double veil for chaos res and slam.
Last edited by Lisann#6312 on Dec 1, 2020, 11:15:27 AM
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Lisann wrote:

If you only aim to do normal mapping and a aw8sirus every now and then, yeah, it's just fine. That is not nearly enough for hard content though. The regular LL with 'phy taken as ele' is nice and all for most 'regular' content, but it doesn't cut it. You will still die on i83 heists sometimes. Try doing t16 100% deliriums and such, or even regular semi-juiced t16 zana deliriums. Not only you will die from phy damage, your minions will literally melt.

Otherwise, grace+div determination wouldn't be SO good and allow people to literally afk-tank 100%del kosis+omni on <4k es. Or sirus' meteor.


I leveled the first 70% of the lvl 99-100 exp bar purely via 4-5 orb/zana deliriums with mid-high tier juice on Tropical Island maps + full clear simulacrum, only zombies died occasionally when they run off sideways because of Feeding Frenzy and swapping out Minion Life for Maim support and this happened only on 5 orb maps.

My character didn't even die once the entire time.

But then again, I had 9.5k es during the final push, as a result of prioritizing personal survivability over everything else.
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Alhanna wrote:


Swap the gems in your belt... Minions deal Increased damage if you've used minion skill is must stat... Since Convocation is minion skill U use it to boost their DPS. SInce belt is enhancing the effect of socketed gems by 75 % u loose a lot.

so, 2x Ghastly eye with 20% increase damag and that x1.75...




That's a good thought. I may have to make some changes.
I wasn't using convocation from the start so I went with +phys damage and attack speed. Never revisited my belt jewels since.

I agree with Lisann that 3 Primordial Harmonies are the way to go.

@Marupok, how about just removing that intuitive leap, put your anima stone there and use those points to path down to Charisma? Those +atk speed nodes just simply are not doing you any good at all.
That's all I got 'cause I'm too lazy AF to look at anything other than your tree. :)
Last edited by TheStabbie#6805 on Dec 1, 2020, 11:19:04 AM
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Lisann wrote:

I tried the LL version, and used it up to lvl 97ish, minmaxed it far beyond your current lackluster setup. Minions still died, even on just 4sextant 4scarab zanadeli beyond tropicals. That's the main reason i swapped to CI. So you are either doing vanilla content (as i said, LL is fine for regular mapping), or you are lying.

But what do i know...



Sounds you like you made the right choice switching to the CI build.
I would have done the same thing if I was having those issues.
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Nyangoro wrote:

I leveled the first 70% of the lvl 99-100 exp bar purely via 4-5 orb/zana deliriums with mid-high tier juice on Tropical Island maps + full clear simulacrum, only zombies died occasionally when they run off sideways because of Feeding Frenzy and swapping out Minion Life for Maim support and this happened only on 5 orb maps.

My character didn't even die once the entire time.

But then again, I had 9.5k es during the final push, as a result of prioritizing personal survivability over everything else.


I just realised that at the time, 2 months ago, the theorycrafting wasn't as advanced as it is now. We were still testing stuff. I also had 9.5k ES, but aggresive minions died fairly often and we all were convinced primordial might was still a must for decent clear.

With that in mind, still phy and chaos damage would nuke your minions, mine died a few times specially on juiced deli double beyond.

Also, not running fleshnstone is just madness.
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Lisann wrote:


I just realised that at the time, 2 months ago, the theorycrafting wasn't as advanced as it is now. We were still testing stuff. I also had 9.5k ES, but aggresive minions died fairly often and we all were convinced primordial might was still a must for decent clear.

With that in mind, still phy and chaos damage would nuke your minions, mine died a few times specially on juiced deli double beyond.

Also, not running fleshnstone is just madness.


I am well aware that the CI version with additional auras is stronger and already planned to run it from the ground-up in future leagues.

I am just saying, my experience with even 5 orb deliriums is that only zombies die occasionally, and nothing else. Not even the act 2 frenzy chieftains, which have really low base health pools.

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