[3.12] Radiating Carrion Golems. 90% resistances + 10-20 Mil DPS

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Kelzar wrote:

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falagar112 wrote:

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Kelzar wrote:

I have a 6L 6W shavs, so im wondering rolling directly into Dom Blow.

Which are the main differences between DB and Carrrio Golem verion?

Thanks <3

dom blow can scale much higher then golem version (45m vs 125m), dom blow is active gameplay rather then afk gameplay, dom blow is more dangerous vs sirus (since melee).

having played both, i prefer dom blow, its great fun.

I come from another build and carried with me an HH which I plan to use here. Might the DBlow variation benefit more from it rather than golems on which I build only obtain the speed and defensive buffs?

Im not sure if start with golems 1st and then eventually. Seems the gear difference is not a big currency impact, neither the tree is a big whole difference. So maybe thats a good approach? Thanks in advance.

dom blow benefits from HH a lot more then golems do - however neither of them is really great for HH.

That said,if you sell the HH, you can pretty much min max dom blow.

I dont know if this has been already brought up here(probably) but you can very easily convert this build to a pure spectre build, just by recoloring shavs and equiping a minion wand.

I tried pure physical dmg Syndicate Operatives for a while and I have to say it feels vastly superior than both the golem and the dom blow version IMO.

Clear is second to none and the shotgunning just melts bosses in an instant.
So, if u get bored by golems and domblow(lile me) Id suggest to give them a go, before they get nerfed in the next patch :P.

I made a few videos of the build for reference, if ure interrested:


T16 100% Deli + Beyond
https://youtu.be/4seaii2SOqA


2.5min A8 Sirus
https://youtu.be/xdNmT-Z5TJQ


2min Uber Elder
https://youtu.be/eKWCZLDHfdI

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s0mosh wrote:

I dont know if this has been already brought up here(probably) but you can very easily convert this build to a pure spectre build, just by recoloring shavs and equiping a minion wand.

I tried pure physical dmg Syndicate Operatives for a while and I have to say it feels vastly superior than both the golem and the dom blow version IMO.

Clear is second to none and the shotgunning just melts bosses in an instant.
So, if u get bored by golems and domblow(lile me) Id suggest to give them a go, before they get nerfed in the next patch :P.

I made a few videos of the build for reference, if ure interrested:


T16 100% Deli + Beyond
https://youtu.be/4seaii2SOqA


2.5min A8 Sirus
https://youtu.be/xdNmT-Z5TJQ


2min Uber Elder
https://youtu.be/eKWCZLDHfdI

Do you have a PoB for this variant?

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tenw30d wrote:

Do you have a PoB for this variant?

https://pastebin.com/DcsJ1MPh

There you go.

If you compare the dmg numbers with the min-maxed life based version that uses elemental conversion you see that our dmg output is actually higher, even without the 5th spectre AND our damage is not reliant on proccing Elemental Equilibrium and Frostbomb.

Our dps is always available from the get go. Plus the added benefit of being immortal due to aura stacking

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s0mosh wrote:

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tenw30d wrote:

Do you have a PoB for this variant?

https://pastebin.com/DcsJ1MPh

There you go.

If you compare the dmg numbers with the min-maxed life based version that uses elemental conversion you see that our dmg output is actually higher, even without the 5th spectre AND our damage is not reliant on proccing Elemental Equilibrium and Frostbomb.

Our dps is always available from the get go. Plus the added benefit of being immortal due to aura stacking

Interesting!

I was just going to ask how it compares to the standard life specters. I can see in POE.Ninja that you're second in the rankings for this version lol.

I was planning on trying the Dom blow version this weekend for my second build, but I might go for this specter variant first. I just want to run around and watch summons putting in the actual effort.

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falagar112 wrote:

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Kelzar wrote:

I have a 6L 6W shavs, so im wondering rolling directly into Dom Blow.

Which are the main differences between DB and Carrrio Golem verion?

Thanks <3

dom blow can scale much higher then golem version (45m vs 125m), dom blow is active gameplay rather then afk gameplay, dom blow is more dangerous vs sirus (since melee).

having played both, i prefer dom blow, its great fun.

I think you can get more ES with this tree:
http://poeurl.com/c3NP

And 3% more aura eff on some jewel so you can respec devotion to righteous army?

Can anyone help me out?

I have only played 3 leagues, and this one I had a great league start and decided to reroll with this build since I could afford it.

Any advice on what to do next? I feel like I could be a lot tankier. I can still get 1 hit by a lot of t16 map mechanics.


I know I could play better, which I am working on lol. But I am sure there is still room for a lot of improvement in my build

https://pastebin.com/ju80LdUS

I appreciate any advice

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s0mosh wrote:

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tenw30d wrote:

Do you have a PoB for this variant?

https://pastebin.com/DcsJ1MPh

There you go.

If you compare the dmg numbers with the min-maxed life based version that uses elemental conversion you see that our dmg output is actually higher, even without the 5th spectre AND our damage is not reliant on proccing Elemental Equilibrium and Frostbomb.

Our dps is always available from the get go. Plus the added benefit of being immortal due to aura stacking

Just looking at your PoB, you have a 5 Slum Lord jewel! Any minion based build with a 5 slum lord jewel is going to be awesome. If I turn that into a three slum lord jewel and move the saved points elsewhere, your dps is very similar to a maxed out golem version. (about 10 million/spectre)

That's still super solid, and a great option for anyone who wants to try something different. Haven't played Syndicate Operatives myself, but they very well might have much better natural clear skills then Carrion golems.

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Breken wrote:

Just looking at your PoB, you have a 5 Slum Lord jewel! Any minion based build with a 5 slum lord jewel is going to be awesome. If I turn that into a three slum lord jewel and move the saved points elsewhere, your dps is very similar to a maxed out golem version. (about 10 million/spectre)

That's still super solid, and a great option for anyone who wants to try something different. Haven't played Syndicate Operatives myself, but they very well might have much better natural clear skills then Carrion golems.

My point here just was that we can surpass the (vastly more popular) ele conversion variant in terms of dmg output by just going pure phys, implying that they also have a 5 way Slum Lord jewel. Found some guy on poe.ninja the other day who had one and was also pretty min-maxed, and he had less dmg.

To be totally honest, I haven't played the Golem version with the Elegant Hubris, since it blocks the +1 Golem notable on the top and that just turned me off big time, so you're right, I can't give a totally neutral comparison here..
So I can only reference to the clear I had when I was still rocking Golems, which was a bit better than the Dom Blow variant(wich I played with the Jewel :P)..in comparison to this its like David vs. Goliath^^.


In terms of single target, there is a pretty noticeable gap between Golems and Dom Blow, and a not-so noticeable gap between Dom Blow and Spectres IMO.

They may have less damage on paper, but form my personal experience, they just "feel" faster and stronger. Maybe its due to the shotgunning they do, I cant really tell..but the sheer dmg output feels def higher than with Dom Blow.

So how would the Spectre variant be, compared to Golems/Dom Blow, without the jewel entirely?

Also, how would one go about obtaining a Slum Lord jewel?

Sorry for the basic questions!