[3.16] LL VD Spellslinger | 8.2 k ES | 75%Block / 75% Spell Block | not recommended anymore

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phuaoyama wrote:

Sure, it work with corpses from monsters, but that is not the point in my test. The point is how many corpses we can make w/ or w/o Awakened SC.

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zzang wrote:

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phuaoyama wrote:

Sure, it work with corpses from monsters, but that is not the point in my test. The point is how many corpses we can make w/ or w/o Awakened SC.

For my testing i looked how many Volatile Dead i spawn from the corpses on first trigger with Spellcascade or Awakened Spellcascade linked to Desecrate.
My result is that i spawn roughly 8-9 with a normal Spellcascade while i can spawn consistently 12 Volatile Dead with the first cast on Awakened Spellcascade. Dunno if RNG but that observation is my reason to use 2* Awakened Spellcascade.

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Discordian827 wrote:

Depends on how much currency you have to burn.

I did Belt>Boots>Wand>Helmet. Because I am a poor person.

Helmet seems to be the Biggest increase in DPS without question. but just the base is 13Ex I think I spent 20-25 ex making mine and its not done

Boots and Belt are easier but still pretty expensive. I think 3 Maven orbs minimum for those, plus crafting the base items.

Gloves are great Quality of life with the Cull and unnerve and relatively cheap to craft.

Wand seems easiest but I'm not finished with mine either.. I got +1 all spell fracture on 1st try and figured id use that plus a essence with flat fire damage. again I am a peasant.

all my crafting was done multiple days per item with lots of sells of other stuff to cover the cost.

So basically Cost
Gloves
Wand
Belt
Boots
Helm
Importance
Helm(huge DPS)
wand(Dps and Survivability)
Belt(CDR and Flask uptime)
Boots(CDR,Freeze immune(Maybe Tailwind and MS)
Gloves(DPS)
[Boots and Belt can swap position on importance if you find yourself out of flask and frozen but a freeze immune flask with sufficient flask uptime works imo and the Belt is cheaper than the Boots if you go for MS and Tailwind.]
This is just my opinion others may disagree

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phuaoyama wrote:

i tested by removing spellslinger, bone offering, DD. Self-cast desecrate one time and then consume all copses with VD untill no corpse on the ground. In both case w/ and w/o Awakened SC bring the same number of VD balls.

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gottypro wrote:

Guys, I was wondering about boots, wanna start crafting them but I'm really debating between going CDR/Speed/Tailwind.
I know OP's boots have no movement speed, just CDR, but it it really fine not going for any movement speed? I guess it doesnt matter if you're going for 100% delirium, but what about general mapping? If I wanted to run some maps for harvest, don't we miss MS/tailwind? Would really like to hear someone's opinion who tried both.

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gottypro wrote:

Guys, I was wondering about boots, wanna start crafting them but I'm really debating between going CDR/Speed/Tailwind.
I know OP's boots have no movement speed, just CDR, but it it really fine not going for any movement speed? I guess it doesnt matter if you're going for 100% delirium, but what about general mapping? If I wanted to run some maps for harvest, don't we miss MS/tailwind? Would really like to hear someone's opinion who tried both.

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zzang wrote:

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phuaoyama wrote:

i tested by removing spellslinger, bone offering, DD. Self-cast desecrate one time and then consume all copses with VD untill no corpse on the ground. In both case w/ and w/o Awakened SC bring the same number of VD balls.

For me its 12 Volatile Dead (Descecrate on Awakened Spellcascade triggered in the setup) vs 8-9 Volatile Dead (Descecrate on Spellcascade triggered in same setup). I can make video if you need proof. It might be RNG or maybe some ping issue dontk now. If you can run Desecrate with normal Spellcascade then its fine i guess.

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phuaoyama wrote:

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zzang wrote:

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phuaoyama wrote:

i tested by removing spellslinger, bone offering, DD. Self-cast desecrate one time and then consume all copses with VD untill no corpse on the ground. In both case w/ and w/o Awakened SC bring the same number of VD balls.

For me its 12 Volatile Dead (Descecrate on Awakened Spellcascade triggered in the setup) vs 8-9 Volatile Dead (Descecrate on Spellcascade triggered in same setup). I can make video if you need proof. It might be RNG or maybe some ping issue dontk now. If you can run Desecrate with normal Spellcascade then its fine i guess.

Dont know how you made your test, but i just think if you dont remove spellslinger/DD/bone offering, we totally cant see what happened bcuz maybe you made more than one cast when you fire frenzy, or we dont know how many corpses consumed to VD or DD, or ping issue. So, in my opinion, we only test on 1-time desecrate and count how many corpses was made.