This league is going to be a hard skip for me unfortunately. It is quite obvious that GGG is absolutely out of touch with the player base.
Was the economy so distressed that they absolutely needed the laundry list of nerfs? I don't get why if people are having fun playing, playing so many hours in the game, that they want to stop people from doing that?
Calling items power level "unethical" but letting them stay that way for years, then all of the sudden "OMG NO THIS IS UNETHICAL HOW DID WE MISS THIS FOR YEARS?"
How about you take items that are worth 20ex+ and nerf them into absolute oblivion if you are talking about items being unethical? Balance THOSE items, they are not 20ex+ because they are balanced. I mean, HELLO? Why should only the absolute 100% no lifers be the one who get to utilize the most absolutely broken op UNBALANCED items?
I think it is hilarious how people in this thread laugh at one class getting nerfed into oblivion, no one forces these people to play those builds, they can play anything they like, you don't like that play style? Don't play it. Pretty simple there. I just don't get why GGG wants to forcibly turn players away.
The ONLY reason Metamorph saw any kind of player retention was because of the new atlas, well, the new atlas has been played, and now that retention will NOT be happening this league (guaranteed a flashback event for sure).
I know an extremely busted build for this league (fairly certain everyone else knows what that is) everyone will play it, items will be outrageously expensive, 30%+ of builds will use it, and next league you will nerf it into oblivion. MEANWHILE, it is unbalanced now, and it was not even remotely touched in these patch notes, but somehow, next league you will say how it is unethical. That is how out of touch GGG is.
Have a fun league! I am out!
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Posted byAcidRizzle#0594on Mar 11, 2020, 12:25:31 PM
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mrkid0612 wrote:
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DarkerThanTheOtherOne wrote:
Hollow Palm Technique
You count as Dual Wielding while you are Unencumbered
60% more Attack Speed while you are Unencumbered
14 to 20 Added Attack Physical Damage per 10 Dexterity while you are Unencumbered
( You are Unencumbered while you have no Equipped Gloves, Main Hand Item, or Off Hand Item)
"The mastodons of yore were each born with two weapons greater than any sword. So, too, were you." - Maraketh Proverb
Well they confirmed that all three conditions have to be met. I assumed its a mistake in wording.
Missed that :(
Well, not a great loss but it could have been a good synergy
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AcidRizzle wrote:
This league is going to be a hard skip for me unfortunately. It is quite obvious that GGG is absolutely out of touch with the player base.
Was the economy so distressed that they absolutely needed the laundry list of nerfs? I don't get why if people are having fun playing, playing so many hours in the game, that they want to stop people from doing that?
Calling items power level "unethical" but letting them stay that way for years, then all of the sudden "OMG NO THIS IS UNETHICAL HOW DID WE MISS THIS FOR YEARS?"
How about you take items that are worth 20ex+ and nerf them into absolute oblivion if you are talking about items being unethical? Balance THOSE items, they are not 20ex+ because they are balanced. I mean, HELLO? Why should only the absolute 100% no lifers be the one who get to utilize the most absolutely broken op UNBALANCED items?
I think it is hilarious how people in this thread laugh at one class getting nerfed into oblivion, no one forces these people to play those builds, they can play anything they like, you don't like that play style? Don't play it. Pretty simple there. I just don't get why GGG wants to forcibly turn players away.
The ONLY reason Metamorph saw any kind of player retention was because of the new atlas, well, the new atlas has been played, and now that retention will NOT be happening this league (guaranteed a flashback event for sure).
I know an extremely busted build for this league (fairly certain everyone else knows what that is) everyone will play it, items will be outrageously expensive, 30%+ of builds will use it, and next league you will nerf it into oblivion. MEANWHILE, it is unbalanced now, and it was not even remotely touched in these patch notes, but somehow, next league you will say how it is unethical. That is how out of touch GGG is.
Have a fun league! I am out!
We are missing u already :(
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Posted bySocaro#0031on Mar 11, 2020, 12:27:59 PM
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DarkerThanTheOtherOne wrote:
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Segus1992 wrote:
Hollow Palm Technique
You count as Dual Wielding while you are Unencumbered
60% more Attack Speed while you are Unencumbered
14 to 20 Added Attack Physical Damage per 10 Dexterity while you are Unencumbered
( You are Unencumbered while you have no Equipped Gloves, Main Hand Item, or Off Hand Item)
"The mastodons of yore were each born with two weapons greater than any sword. So, too, were you." - Maraketh Proverb
This isn't difficult. No X, Y, or Z means you have to have neither of them. All three slots have to be empty.
Am i reading it wrong? It should end with a "and" logic condition for them to be all empty for the node to work, like X(e) and Y(e) and Z(e) = buff
In the description it sounds more like Not X or Not Y or Not Z = buff
Yes, you are reading it wrong. There has been a lot of discussion on this particular Keystone. Many people are planning to play it. Or at least try it. I say this to say, it has been clarified you can not have all 3 to obtain the buff.
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Posted byInksm3ar#5479on Mar 11, 2020, 12:28:20 PM
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AcidRizzle wrote:
This league is going to be a hard skip for me unfortunately. It is quite obvious that GGG is absolutely out of touch with the player base.
Was the economy so distressed that they absolutely needed the laundry list of nerfs? I don't get why if people are having fun playing, playing so many hours in the game, that they want to stop people from doing that?
Calling items power level "unethical" but letting them stay that way for years, then all of the sudden "OMG NO THIS IS UNETHICAL HOW DID WE MISS THIS FOR YEARS?"
How about you take items that are worth 20ex+ and nerf them into absolute oblivion if you are talking about items being unethical? Balance THOSE items, they are not 20ex+ because they are balanced. I mean, HELLO? Why should only the absolute 100% no lifers be the one who get to utilize the most absolutely broken op UNBALANCED items?
I think it is hilarious how people in this thread laugh at one class getting nerfed into oblivion, no one forces these people to play those builds, they can play anything they like, you don't like that play style? Don't play it. Pretty simple there. I just don't get why GGG wants to forcibly turn players away.
The ONLY reason Metamorph saw any kind of player retention was because of the new atlas, well, the new atlas has been played, and now that retention will NOT be happening this league (guaranteed a flashback event for sure).
I know an extremely busted build for this league (fairly certain everyone else knows what that is) everyone will play it, items will be outrageously expensive, 30%+ of builds will use it, and next league you will nerf it into oblivion. MEANWHILE, it is unbalanced now, and it was not even remotely touched in these patch notes, but somehow, next league you will say how it is unethical. That is how out of touch GGG is.
Have a fun league! I am out!
Lets play Wolcen! Better than this shit!
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Posted byNeto#6152on Mar 11, 2020, 12:29:48 PM
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DarkerThanTheOtherOne wrote:
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Segus1992 wrote:
Hollow Palm Technique
You count as Dual Wielding while you are Unencumbered
60% more Attack Speed while you are Unencumbered
14 to 20 Added Attack Physical Damage per 10 Dexterity while you are Unencumbered
( You are Unencumbered while you have no Equipped Gloves, Main Hand Item, or Off Hand Item)
"The mastodons of yore were each born with two weapons greater than any sword. So, too, were you." - Maraketh Proverb
This isn't difficult. No X, Y, or Z means you have to have neither of them. All three slots have to be empty.
Am i reading it wrong? It should end with a "and" logic condition for them to be all empty for the node to work, like X(e) and Y(e) and Z(e) = buff
In the description it sounds more like Not X or Not Y or Not Z = buff
You are, yes. "no X, Y, and Z" would mean you can't have all three at once, which would give the result you're thinking of right now - essentially that phrase says that whenever you don't have the specific combo XYZ, you're good. But then, XY, XZ, YZ, X, Y, Z all work.
"no X, Y, or Z" means if you have either of them, you don't fulfill the criteria.
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Posted bySegus1992#4022on Mar 11, 2020, 12:29:52 PM
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So many nerfs across the board, builds, crafting, QoL, reason to delve, items, with nothing improved to take their place.
Us: What do you want GGG, do you expect us to talk?
GGG: No.. I expect you to die. /maniacal laughter
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Posted bytrixxar#2360on Mar 11, 2020, 12:33:03 PM
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Segus1992 wrote:
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DarkerThanTheOtherOne wrote:
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Segus1992 wrote:
Hollow Palm Technique
You count as Dual Wielding while you are Unencumbered
60% more Attack Speed while you are Unencumbered
14 to 20 Added Attack Physical Damage per 10 Dexterity while you are Unencumbered
( You are Unencumbered while you have no Equipped Gloves, Main Hand Item, or Off Hand Item)
"The mastodons of yore were each born with two weapons greater than any sword. So, too, were you." - Maraketh Proverb
This isn't difficult. No X, Y, or Z means you have to have neither of them. All three slots have to be empty.
Am i reading it wrong? It should end with a "and" logic condition for them to be all empty for the node to work, like X(e) and Y(e) and Z(e) = buff
In the description it sounds more like Not X or Not Y or Not Z = buff
You are, yes. "no X, Y, and Z" would mean you can't have all three at once, which would give the result you're thinking of right now - essentially that phrase says that whenever you don't have the specific combo XYZ, you're good. But then, XY, XZ, YZ, X, Y, Z all work.
"no X, Y, or Z" means if you have either of them, you don't fulfill the criteria.
This. Not to mention, could you IMAGINE how absurdly broken Facebreakers would be with the massive flat phys + 800% phys damage if you could use gloves with it? I'm not doing the math, but it might be possible to hit BILLIONS of shaper DPS that way. Shapers per frame might become a thing.
Thank god they had the foresight to make it so all 3 slots have to be empty :D
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Posted byRedthorne82#3177on Mar 11, 2020, 12:36:17 PM
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Segus1992 wrote:
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DarkerThanTheOtherOne wrote:
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Segus1992 wrote:
Hollow Palm Technique
You count as Dual Wielding while you are Unencumbered
60% more Attack Speed while you are Unencumbered
14 to 20 Added Attack Physical Damage per 10 Dexterity while you are Unencumbered
( You are Unencumbered while you have no Equipped Gloves, Main Hand Item, or Off Hand Item)
"The mastodons of yore were each born with two weapons greater than any sword. So, too, were you." - Maraketh Proverb
This isn't difficult. No X, Y, or Z means you have to have neither of them. All three slots have to be empty.
Am i reading it wrong? It should end with a "and" logic condition for them to be all empty for the node to work, like X(e) and Y(e) and Z(e) = buff
In the description it sounds more like Not X or Not Y or Not Z = buff
You are, yes. "no X, Y, and Z" would mean you can't have all three at once, which would give the result you're thinking of right now - essentially that phrase says that whenever you don't have the specific combo XYZ, you're good. But then, XY, XZ, YZ, X, Y, Z all work.
"no X, Y, or Z" means if you have either of them, you don't fulfill the criteria.
Right, i see now where i was mistaken. Didn't consider the combined cases. Thank you
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101 bugs...so happy i did play only 3-4 days that bug league...i wander how long this new bug league i will play...there is nothing to trigger me...bad or good..is that bad POE has become.
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Posted byIn10se#7991on Mar 11, 2020, 12:38:07 PM
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