[3.10] Stone Golem Golemancer Build -DELIRIUM-BALANCED- ALL CONTENT -Everything Dies-Huge Damage

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Cowpanski wrote:

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Budewnpa wrote:

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Cowpanski wrote:

Hello,

Really loving the Golem build. Is it possible for anyone that understand the Golem Attack CD situation that could recommend the correct ratio i should be using with my current gear setup. Any help would be much appreciated.

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Thank you

Multistrike means your golems slam 3x, so if your golem's slam time x 3 is less than the cooldown time, it means that slam won't be up and your golems will autoattack. that's what you need to avoid, so you can either

1. reduce attack speed
2. add more cooldown reduction
3. just get awakened multistrike poggers

Sorry i am a big dummy and still do not clearly understand. I do have a woke multistrike but still unclear on the ratio of Primoridal jewels to optimize the dps.

Currently running 6 harmony / 2 eminence with ravenous horde anoint.

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Budewnpa wrote:

If it's still too confusing, you're in luck. With awakened multistrike it won't matter. Just do whatever you were doing.

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Chipmunken wrote:

Now, I don't understand why using Awakened Multistrike will automatically make this work? @Budewnpa or anyone else?

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scrambled777 wrote:

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Chipmunken wrote:

Now, I don't understand why using Awakened Multistrike will automatically make this work? @Budewnpa or anyone else?

Multistrike locks the stone golems into attacking four times instead of three, at more or less the same attack speed as normal Multistrike at gem level 5 (44% IAS vs 47% IAS which is marginal difference). The DPS increase is in the 60% more damage for your fourth attack.

Your golem cooldowns will have to be pretty out of whack for a 4-attack combo to be an issue.

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Chipmunken wrote:

You basically want this number to be larger than the Skill Cooldown, probably even as close to it as possible.
Your Skill Cooldown is 1.30s, so you are good. :)

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CrazedBadger wrote:

Maybe I'm missing something, but I've done quite a bit of testing and I'd like to at least challenge the assumptions on the multistrike/cooldown/slam side.

When I watch my golems, they are, sometimes, very clearly not doing the slam (where they use both hands at the same time to hit the ground and the ripples sort of come out) and doing what looks like "normal attacks" (where it looks more like they're throwing a baseball or punching with one hand).

I have a stone golem attack rate of 2.45 (1 / 2.45 = 0.408 s per attack) - PoB says 2.25 and I am mentally adding 0.20 for the onslaught from Ravenous Horde which I cannot for the life of me figure out how to get to come through in PoB. This is the golem attack rate that results after being enhanced by various passives, ravenous horde (and accompanying onslaught), and feeding frenzy.

According to PoB, I have a golem slam skill cooldown of 0.96s (with 7 Primordial Harmony jewels all with the maximum 45% golem skill cooldown reduction)

With multistrike, conventional wisdom would say that it takes 3 x 0.408 s = 1.224 s to finish one set of slam attacks. This is much higher than my skill cooldown, so there should never be a case where my golems are forced into their regular attack instead of their slam attack. I have put a lot of effort into making absolutely sure (hence only taking the perfect roll 45% golem skill cooldown reduction Harmony jewels) my cooldown is fast enough based on the comments in this thread.

However, I am seeing them "regular attack" quite often - assuming I am correct in that the "throwing a baseball" type animation is the regular attack and not part of the animation for the slam multistrike process.

Am I missing something?

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Infl3x wrote:

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CrazedBadger wrote:

Maybe I'm missing something, but I've done quite a bit of testing and I'd like to at least challenge the assumptions on the multistrike/cooldown/slam side.

When I watch my golems, they are, sometimes, very clearly not doing the slam (where they use both hands at the same time to hit the ground and the ripples sort of come out) and doing what looks like "normal attacks" (where it looks more like they're throwing a baseball or punching with one hand).

I have a stone golem attack rate of 2.45 (1 / 2.45 = 0.408 s per attack) - PoB says 2.25 and I am mentally adding 0.20 for the onslaught from Ravenous Horde which I cannot for the life of me figure out how to get to come through in PoB. This is the golem attack rate that results after being enhanced by various passives, ravenous horde (and accompanying onslaught), and feeding frenzy.

According to PoB, I have a golem slam skill cooldown of 0.96s (with 7 Primordial Harmony jewels all with the maximum 45% golem skill cooldown reduction)

With multistrike, conventional wisdom would say that it takes 3 x 0.408 s = 1.224 s to finish one set of slam attacks. This is much higher than my skill cooldown, so there should never be a case where my golems are forced into their regular attack instead of their slam attack. I have put a lot of effort into making absolutely sure (hence only taking the perfect roll 45% golem skill cooldown reduction Harmony jewels) my cooldown is fast enough based on the comments in this thread.

However, I am seeing them "regular attack" quite often - assuming I am correct in that the "throwing a baseball" type animation is the regular attack and not part of the animation for the slam multistrike process.

Am I missing something?

Hmm, I noticed the same thing and decided to test this with 1 golem on Atoll's stationary boss.

The slam behavior is very inconsistent. Some times, there is no gap between slams. Sometimes 1-2 second gap, but most often a much longer gap where the golem will switch to normal attack for 3-5 seconds.