[3.14] Kami's Life | LL | CI CoC Ice Nova Assassin | all Content | deep Delve | max Block

mate my gear is 10x better than yours but i suck at boss and sometimes i even die while mapping t14 lol what im doing wrong? ffs
Last edited by MasterHating#3958 on Jun 30, 2020, 11:34:56 PM
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LegacySnow wrote:
mate my gear is 10x better than yours but i suck at boss and sometimes i even die while mapping t14 lol what im doing wrong? ffs


You are playing a dual wield coc nova without any defensive setup (i.e. CWDT). I'm not suggesting that you need CWDT or that it would make a world of difference, or even going to comment on your skill level - BUT you should have more realistic expectations of the build.

I'm not an expert by any means, but I did build a similar dual-wield CoCNova during the end of Metamorph with some pretty decent gear.


Whilst the damage and clear speed was insane, it did not feel great for bossing for anything that could not be one-phased (so conquerors and stuff no issue, dead in under a second, whereas I would switch to another char for Sirus/UE/etc).

My recommendation would be to not play cocnova unless you are (a) wealthy enough to play a sword/shield setup or (b) do not mind having another character for bossing and/or don't mind asking for carries.
Last edited by BrettLee#6388 on Jun 30, 2020, 11:55:59 PM
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BrettLee wrote:
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LegacySnow wrote:
mate my gear is 10x better than yours but i suck at boss and sometimes i even die while mapping t14 lol what im doing wrong? ffs


You are playing a dual wield coc nova without any defensive setup (i.e. CWDT). I'm not suggesting that you need CWDT or that it would make a world of difference, or even going to comment on your skill level - BUT you should have more realistic expectations of the build.

I'm not an expert by any means, but I did build a similar dual-wield CoCNova during the end of Metamorph with some pretty decent gear.


Whilst the damage and clear speed was insane, it did not feel great for bossing for anything that could not be one-phased (so conquerors and stuff no issue, dead in under a second, whereas I would switch to another char for Sirus/UE/etc).

My recommendation would be to not play cocnova unless you are (a) wealthy enough to play a sword/shield setup or (b) do not mind having another character for bossing and/or don't mind asking for carries.


dude what are you talking about, my gear is even better than what kami had before he change to ci, he claims to do all content good but im getting raped sometimes, dmg feels low, and i cant see how he reach 5k hp i have only 4100, i got more crit chance than him and i cant do reflect map, also i got the exact same 2 rings he got ( current for sale thats why is not on char) dont know whats wrong for real, also metamorph was last year ! dont talk about oudated stuff please if you wanna talk about old stuff check my ci coc nova from last league (kitanascoldcyclone)
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BearsInHeat wrote:
Hi, thanks for the build! Appreciate all of the work you put into this.

One quick question is how do i gain inspiration charges as my cyclone currently costs 0 mana to channel?


take out Lucidity and take a medium Cluster Jewels for the stun avoid, or swap inc. crit for awakened added cold.

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madspaz wrote:
best way to get stun immunity on the starter/(very)low budget build ?


I hadn't bigger problems with stun. But if you wanne stun immune, the ways to get it are the same as a CI

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Strooder wrote:
The final pastebin has some missing skills, whats taken with the two thread of hopes? And I assume you still get all power charges? or no?


do you use pob fork? the pob works totally fine on me

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Strooder wrote:
The final pastebin has some missing skills, whats taken with the two thread of hopes? And I assume you still get all power charges? or no?


check out the cdr spoiler, and get some more Life on Gear
Last edited by xXx_Kamikaze_xXx#4329 on Jul 1, 2020, 12:07:24 AM
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LegacySnow wrote:
dude what are you talking about, my gear is even better than what kami had before he change to ci, he claims to do all content good but im getting raped sometimes, dmg feels low, and i cant see how he reach 5k hp i have only 4100, i got more crit chance than him and i cant do reflect map, also i got the exact same 2 rings he got ( current for sale thats why is not on char) dont know whats wrong for real, also metamorph was last year ! dont talk about oudated stuff please if you wanna talk about old stuff check my ci coc nova from last league (kitanascoldcyclone)


You say that you have better gear than he had, yet you aren't sure how he reached 5K HP? You can see that he has 90+ life on his helmet, gloves, boots, belt and rings (+flat 122HP and 9% max life on the shaper ring), amounting to 564 flat life and 9% life. These life rolls are much more valuable than ES when you are taking a bunch of %life nodes in the tree. As an example, a +90 life roll on your belt would add 245 life. Getting equivalent life rolls on your gloves and boots would be ~+90 life for each.

If the damage feels low when you have double circle of fear then you are doing something wrong. Metamorph was 6 months ago, I'm not sure what you think has changed since then.

And perhaps you are too stupid to understand this, but this isn't a life build guide. If the life version was capable of tanking everything while dual wielding, then why do we have a build guide here for sword/shield CI? I wonder.

The reason I linked those items was to illustrate that even if you had better defensive items, you will still die every now and then because the dual wield life version without CWDT is quite obviously a squishy build.
Last edited by BrettLee#6388 on Jul 1, 2020, 1:34:30 AM
Hi, I bought an average gear and I began to experience problems with bosses starting with t13-t16 maps. You can check my character and say what mistakes i made. Thanks.
R5 1600 @3.6GHz | RX 580 8GB | 16GB DDR4
What do we do to counter the stun now?
What should my gear and gem links look like for the final build? Some of his gem links are confusing like the vortex set up has 3 supports and no vortex
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Archanyx wrote:
What should my gear and gem links look like for the final build? Some of his gem links are confusing like the vortex set up has 3 supports and no vortex


seems like something did mess up these days, fixed it now, hopefully that was all
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xXx_Kamikaze_xXx wrote:
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Archanyx wrote:
What should my gear and gem links look like for the final build? Some of his gem links are confusing like the vortex set up has 3 supports and no vortex


seems like something did mess up these days, fixed it now, hopefully that was all


Thanks bro, im loving the build so far. Do i run 2 cospri or 1 cospri and a es shield

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