[Archived] Moosseolini's Holy Relics Guardian

my holy relic is lvl 21 and i must admit the single target DPS feels low to what i'm used to with other minions,and i cant afford the gem upgrades like empower or +3 gem staff...

edit- i'm only in yellow maps :/ i cant see myself dong high red maps with current DPS.

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Exxxiled665 wrote:

my holy relic is lvl 21 and i must admit the single target DPS feels low to what i'm used to with other minions,and i cant afford the gem upgrades like empower or +3 gem staff...

edit- i'm only in yellow maps :/ i cant see myself dong high red maps with current DPS.

I decided to do a different build myself..I'm going with a slayer cyclone.....I enjoy cyclone so much that I decided to just go pure cyclone. Nothing against this build, but it would take me forever to come up with enough currency to make it to red maps since I don't play as often as most do...Cyclone is very low maintenance with no dying skeletons or relics to worry about and very few skills to manage...Wish everyone the best here...

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Mentoya wrote:

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Exxxiled665 wrote:

my holy relic is lvl 21 and i must admit the single target DPS feels low to what i'm used to with other minions,and i cant afford the gem upgrades like empower or +3 gem staff...

edit- i'm only in yellow maps :/ i cant see myself dong high red maps with current DPS.

I decided to do a different build myself..I'm going with a slayer cyclone.....I enjoy cyclone so much that I decided to just go pure cyclone. Nothing against this build, but it would take me forever to come up with enough currency to make it to red maps since I don't play as often as most do...Cyclone is very low maintenance with no dying skeletons or relics to worry about and very few skills to manage...Wish everyone the best here...

i played cyclone before,its a good build but i dont have the patience to level up a new character again so soon. if i'm changing then it will be to dominating blow guardian since i wouldnt have to change much from what i have now


before i abandon ship, is there nothing else i can do to increase DPS? if so then OP should add a warning to the main post. i expected more from a lvl 21 gem. i thought the extra levels were just luxury not mandatory.

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Exxxiled665 wrote:

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Mentoya wrote:

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Exxxiled665 wrote:

my holy relic is lvl 21 and i must admit the single target DPS feels low to what i'm used to with other minions,and i cant afford the gem upgrades like empower or +3 gem staff...

edit- i'm only in yellow maps :/ i cant see myself dong high red maps with current DPS.

I decided to do a different build myself..I'm going with a slayer cyclone.....I enjoy cyclone so much that I decided to just go pure cyclone. Nothing against this build, but it would take me forever to come up with enough currency to make it to red maps since I don't play as often as most do...Cyclone is very low maintenance with no dying skeletons or relics to worry about and very few skills to manage...Wish everyone the best here...

i played cyclone before,its a good build but i dont have the patience to level up a new character again so soon. if i'm changing then it will be to dominating blow guardian since i wouldnt have to change much from what i have now


before i abandon ship, is there nothing else i can do to increase DPS? if so then OP should add a warning to the main post. i expected more from a lvl 21 gem. i thought the extra levels were just luxury not mandatory.

yea, since I had just hit maps I have no problem leveling up a new build. I've become much faster at leveling than I use to be. Hopefully it will only take about 8 hours of playtime. Based upon others who are doing really well, I guess I just have different expectations. Usually most decent builds will get you through white maps with no problem. You usually only need to start worrying about upgrading and getting good gear once you venture into mid to higher tier yellow maps.... Even though my gear was too crappy, my resists were pretty much capped, had mercy lab done and even had a 6 link weapon and level 17/18 gems, and yet I was struggling in T1 maps...I'm just not use to struggling THAT early. I then started thinking about the large amount of currency I would need to make just to be able to get me to Red maps, let alone end-game, thus my decision to go with a different build...

For example when I play this same cyclone build(that I just started) a couple of leagues ago, I didn't have any problem whatsoever until I hit T8ish yellow maps at which point I needed to really start upgrading my gear. But I was zooming through content like crazy and there was very little stress regarding zombies and skeletons dying etc.... Anyway, I guess everyone has their own build that they prefer based on their own play style...Plus I feel like a powerful cyclone build would be much better in the scourges themselves, because they are so tanky

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Exxxiled665 wrote:

i played cyclone before,its a good build but i dont have the patience to level up a new character again so soon. if i'm changing then it will be to dominating blow guardian since i wouldnt have to change much from what i have now


before i abandon ship, is there nothing else i can do to increase DPS? if so then OP should add a warning to the main post. i expected more from a lvl 21 gem. i thought the extra levels were just luxury not mandatory.

It has been said multiple times that gem levels add A LOT of efficacy to this build. They probably are the most important thing in the build, that's why we use that staff and Empower lvl4, they give +7 to SHR. Last league, without playing more than 15 hours a week, I reached 5.5 M DPS with this build, which is not "insta-phase bosses" levels, but enough to do most if not all of the content (only The Feared was too much for me).

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Teschioz wrote:

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Exxxiled665 wrote:

i played cyclone before,its a good build but i dont have the patience to level up a new character again so soon. if i'm changing then it will be to dominating blow guardian since i wouldnt have to change much from what i have now


before i abandon ship, is there nothing else i can do to increase DPS? if so then OP should add a warning to the main post. i expected more from a lvl 21 gem. i thought the extra levels were just luxury not mandatory.

It has been said multiple times that gem levels add A LOT of efficacy to this build. They probably are the most important thing in the build, that's why we use that staff and Empower lvl4, they give +7 to SHR. Last league, without playing more than 15 hours a week, I reached 5.5 M DPS with this build, which is not "insta-phase bosses" levels, but enough to do most if not all of the content (only The Feared was too much for me).

it wasnt said that its mandatory to be able to clear the atlas. in previous leagues with other minions i full cleared the atlas on a 5 link and lvl 20 gem.

Guys that struggle - I would of very much helped, if anyone of you didnt have you account on private or provided a singular POB. Its hard to help if I have literally been given no information besides "no dmg"

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Exxxiled665 wrote:

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Teschioz wrote:

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Exxxiled665 wrote:

i played cyclone before,its a good build but i dont have the patience to level up a new character again so soon. if i'm changing then it will be to dominating blow guardian since i wouldnt have to change much from what i have now


before i abandon ship, is there nothing else i can do to increase DPS? if so then OP should add a warning to the main post. i expected more from a lvl 21 gem. i thought the extra levels were just luxury not mandatory.

It has been said multiple times that gem levels add A LOT of efficacy to this build. They probably are the most important thing in the build, that's why we use that staff and Empower lvl4, they give +7 to SHR. Last league, without playing more than 15 hours a week, I reached 5.5 M DPS with this build, which is not "insta-phase bosses" levels, but enough to do most if not all of the content (only The Feared was too much for me).

it wasnt said that its mandatory to be able to clear the atlas. in previous leagues with other minions i full cleared the atlas on a 5 link and lvl 20 gem.

It shouldn't be. Due to RL commitments I only just got to white maps, and I am not struggling there. I remember last league I got to red maps with maybe a 1 ex investment.

Just to be clear, other minion builds ARE stronger (especially if you played SO specters before the nerf). This one is tankier and has better QoL, at least from my perspective.

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Weatherboy420 wrote:

Guys that struggle - I would of very much helped, if anyone of you didnt have you account on private or provided a singular POB. Its hard to help if I have literally been given no information besides "no dmg"

i know the staff is bad but the +level ones are out of my budget.

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Exxxiled665 wrote:

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Weatherboy420 wrote:

Guys that struggle - I would of very much helped, if anyone of you didnt have you account on private or provided a singular POB. Its hard to help if I have literally been given no information besides "no dmg"

i know the staff is bad but the +level ones are out of my budget.

The staff is fine, I 1shot red tier map monsters with similar staff. What guard skill do you use? Steelskin or cwdt (cast while damage taken) molten shell perhaps? Hows your life ingame. I dont think you need faster attacks support gem with cyclone, try life gain on hit gem instead. (u might fuck up ur HR attack rate with that much higher attack speed, hence lowering ur overall dps)