[3.13 UPDATED] gr0bbs | Poison Blade Vortex | Budget Viable | Endgame 50Mil+ DPS | Video Guide

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NegNoodles wrote:

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memberx wrote:

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NegNoodles wrote:

THanks for sharing this.

I've been trying to buy the Bino's kitchen knife from other players on here. Is it normal that 99.9% of people just blatantly ignore your PMs? lol

The league is ending, it's normal with this king of crapy trading system.

Try buying low tier maps to fill your atlas LOL

Is it? There's literally a month left lol. Also, why lol. Does Bino's drop from low tier maps?

For one, many ppl are done with league content after 4 weeks and play another 2-4 weeks if it's a good league. Second, what does a Bino's cost? 1c? Would you stop mapping, get to your hideout and trade only for 1c? If they're in their hideout at the moment of the whisper, they'll probably invite you. I don't even start to trade stuff that's lower than 15c two weeks into the league.

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JohnnyV76 wrote:

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Prof549 wrote:

Another question: Is it worth getting 2 Bino's Kitchen Knifes(if, say, i'd want to run them until i get decent CIP's)? Do they stack(stats like DoT increasing) for usage with BV? Not quite sure how this works.

The good thing about CIP's is that they are always decent :). All you really need is the +3 levels and they all have that.

+3 levels is a lot of damage and only if you get currency later on you should try to get one with the damage over time corrupt. Early on, imho the optimal setting is 1 CIP and one Bino's but later on, when you have the required gear, 2x CIP is optimal.

I'd take a note on that, but... that doesn't really answer my question(the 2nd part of it) :D

The question is: Why would you even want to stack it? CIP costs exactly the same as Bino's and brings us way more damage. There's simply no reason to use two Binos. Also, we only use Binos until we got an explosion-mod, be it on chest or via Asenaths. Explosion does not only do direct explosion-damage, it also "hits", which means it poisons every mob hit by the explosion.

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HornedTerrorist wrote:

The question is: Why would you even want to stack it? CIP costs exactly the same as Bino's and brings us way more damage. There's simply no reason to use two Binos. Also, we only use Binos until we got an explosion-mod, be it on chest or via Asenaths. Explosion does not only do direct explosion-damage, it also "hits", which means it poisons every mob hit by the explosion.

Because happened that i have 2 of them?

Another chunk of info without needed answers.
Is anyone here knows the exact answer to what i asked? Or i'm gonna be showered with a ton of non-related information?

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Prof549 wrote:

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HornedTerrorist wrote:

The question is: Why would you even want to stack it? CIP costs exactly the same as Bino's and brings us way more damage. There's simply no reason to use two Binos. Also, we only use Binos until we got an explosion-mod, be it on chest or via Asenaths. Explosion does not only do direct explosion-damage, it also "hits", which means it poisons every mob hit by the explosion.

Because happened that i have 2 of them?

Another chunk of info without needed answers.
Is anyone here knows the exact answer to what i asked? Or i'm gonna be showered with a ton of non-related information?

Your English comprehension seems to be bad. People are replying to you in more complex language and you seem to be missing the message. So I will translate for you.

Running 2 Binos is dog shit. Run whatever you want until you find/buy a CIP.

Please be don't bash others for trying to help. The information is only non-related to you because you don't understand that they're trying to be nice.

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BoNEcrSHa wrote:

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Prof549 wrote:

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HornedTerrorist wrote:

The question is: Why would you even want to stack it? CIP costs exactly the same as Bino's and brings us way more damage. There's simply no reason to use two Binos. Also, we only use Binos until we got an explosion-mod, be it on chest or via Asenaths. Explosion does not only do direct explosion-damage, it also "hits", which means it poisons every mob hit by the explosion.

Because happened that i have 2 of them?

Another chunk of info without needed answers.
Is anyone here knows the exact answer to what i asked? Or i'm gonna be showered with a ton of non-related information?

Your English comprehension seems to be bad. People are replying to you in more complex language and you seem to be missing the message. So I will translate for you.

Running 2 Binos is dog shit. Run whatever you want until you find/buy a CIP.

Please be don't bash others for trying to help. The information is only non-related to you because you don't understand that they're trying to be nice.

I do understand what they are saying. Don't put words in my mouth, thank you very much.

I was asking about mechanics interaction between 2 of the same items. Everyone here was blatantly ignoring the second part of the question while focusing on the first one(even when i asked that multiple times). Try to read what is written and not what you want to see. Simple as that.

Is this that bad to ask for a particular answer on a particular question?

This is my second league and still haven't found "the" build for me yet. By far my most successful build so far has been the ED/C Trickster. Killed A8 Sirus, Shaper, and Elder with it. Gonna try Uber Elder soon hopefully. But looking for something that melts stuff a little better.

So it's apparent this has tons of DPS potential. Can anyone comment on the "tankiness" of the build for league start and then with like 10ex - 20 ex investment? I still haven't figured out how people farm so much EX for the crazy gear.

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Prof549 wrote:

I do understand what they are saying. Don't put words in my mouth, thank you very much.

I was asking about mechanics interaction between 2 of the same items. Everyone here was blatantly ignoring the second part of the question while focusing on the first one(even when i asked that multiple times). Try to read what is written and not what you want to see. Simple as that.

Is this that bad to ask for a particular answer on a particular question?

The thing is, nobody would ever think about running two of them, because it would be a really bad decision to do so. Statwise, they should stack. There's no "Limited to 1"-mod on it, like on timeless jewels.

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drawmonster wrote:

This is my second league and still haven't found "the" build for me yet. By far my most successful build so far has been the ED/C Trickster. Killed A8 Sirus, Shaper, and Elder with it. Gonna try Uber Elder soon hopefully. But looking for something that melts stuff a little better.

So it's apparent this has tons of DPS potential. Can anyone comment on the "tankiness" of the build for league start and then with like 10ex - 20 ex investment? I still haven't figured out how people farm so much EX for the crazy gear.

"Tanky" isn't the right word for it. It's a dodge/evasion-build, so it's always open to bad luck, other than controlled dmg-reduction combined with life leech or stuff like that. I used this build as league starter and did all content with it, though i made slight personal variations for my playstyle. Still, i started with the original build, the changes came way later, when i was into T14 maps. I bought a Binos + Tabula on Day 2 of the league i think and had nothing else fancy enough to mention. Went to T10 maps without problem. T10 upwards, life reg / survivability was a bit lackluster - solved that problem by buying the Devouring Diadem on day 3 of the league (4ex at that time, at the end of the week it was down to 1ex if you're not pushing or playing 24/7). Devouring Diadem gives you a BIG push. It gives your Auras socketed in the helmet +1, a mana multiplier so you can get an additional aura, and even a enlighten 1 becomes enlighten 2 for even more "less" mana multiplier. Next i think came an Impresence (2ex?) + Whispers of Doom-Annointment (3ex for 3xGolden Oil) and Asenaths for 6ex, which took me straight to T16.

The DMG is not comparable with endgame gear + cluster jewels, but the investment is worth it. So i invested 16ex on day 3 and had a REALLY really good build with very good clearspeed + high dmg. If you wait a for a week after league start, that gear would only cost you ~10ex. Devouring Diadems are always at 4-5ex on the first few days and sink heavily in price after ~6 days to <1ex. Asenath will stay at ~4-6ex a bit longer, since they're not really farmable. Impresence drops too, but still ~1ex after one week.

The most important thing, which should be obvious but it seems like it isn't: Either buy a Vaal Blade Vortex when you start mapping (level 1 without quality is enough), or do a few Vaal Side areas in the hope of finding one yourself. If you're only using BV, you're missing out on a lot of damage, especially on bosses.

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HornedTerrorist wrote:

The thing is, nobody would ever think about running two of them, because it would be a really bad decision to do so. Statwise, they should stack. There's no "Limited to 1"-mod on it, like on timeless jewels.

Finally some answers. Thank you.

I'm looking at this as my possible league starter. I'm a little confused on that section of the guide though. Could someone hold my hand and help explain what skill/support gems I should be running and upgrading as I level? His leveling section is very vague.