[3.15] Spectral Shield Throw Bleed Gladiator - tanky & fast mapping - good scaling - all content
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Have anyone tried A8 Sirus and Maven or some Maven encounters with this build?
I'm curious if I can get enough od DPS with 8 Ex or should switch to something with more DPS. 1.5kk bleed dps may be not enough to kill A8 Sirus or Maven. |
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I have a question concerning support in the 6l. If you're running crimson dance and actually wanting to make use of those stacks, is there any reason you'd use swift affliction over unbound ailments? It seems like swift might be stronger in mapping, but since standard mobs die well before the usefulness of stacked bleeds anyways... my guess would be since bossing is where the dmg would struggle with this build, and unbound / swift dont share a swappable color, unbound would come out on top. Any of you knowledgeable about these interactions particularly while using crimson dance.
Last edited by Nazgul6969#2050 on Aug 9, 2021, 11:37:23 PM
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Lifetap appears to be providing more dps (and a slight bleeding dps increase) over unbound ailments. Is there any reason to not use it instead to also make it a bit smoother to maintain corrupting fever?
Edit: Assuming your attack rate is high enough to maintain 7 stacks if you are constantly attacking and you are ok with that stipulation on maintaining dps Last edited by Shivan0verlord#1747 on Aug 10, 2021, 1:04:17 AM
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" Yes, it can do end-game bosses without any issues, but not as fast as other builds that are better at single target could. Still, it's not slow by any means. " " Nazugl666 is correct where bleed duration only really matters for end-game bosses. In regular mapping, even for map bosses, the extra duration from Unbound Ailments support doesn't realistically help as monsters die too fast. Even for T16 juiced bosses with lots of health the extra duration might only shave 1 second off a fight that might last 15 seconds. These both deal with bleed duration so I'll try to help with an answer for both together: With 2.5 APS (attacks per sec) and a 3.2 sec bleed duration, you'd be able to apply a new bleed every 0.4 seconds. At 3.2 seconds you've be applying your 8th bleed and your first bleed would have just dropped off. If you have to move for a mechanic for 2 seconds before you can attack again then 5 of your bleeds would have dropped off - whereas with 5 second bleed duration, only 1 bleed would have dropped off. You'll never notice in regular maps, but on bosses you would and extra duration definitely helps. You could use both Swift Affliction Support and Unbound Ailments Support if you use Blood Magic, but if you're using Lifetap Support then you'd need to make the trade off. You could try to use a Vorici bench to turn one of the red/green sockets into a white socket so you could hot-swap the gems for bosses. If you're confident you can keep up 8 stacks without then Unbound Ailments Support then I wouldn't bother using it over something else like Maim Support, Swift Affliction Support, etc. Last edited by Zarasi#7652 on Aug 10, 2021, 3:40:28 AM
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How good is lifetap support if you don't need it for sustaining casts - as in, say I am able to bring my SST mana cost down to <5, and can sustain without blood magic or lifetap, would a different support setup offer more dps?
also how good is corrupting fever actually? does PoB calculate it properly? because with my gear and a 3 link setup CF, PoB is giving me 164k DoT dps on 10 stacks, which feels lackluster for using 3/4 sockets? Last edited by falagar112#0878 on Aug 10, 2021, 5:20:45 AM
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" It's still good, as it's a 19% more multiplier when the buff is up (which would be all the time). If you can cast with mana instead though then you could switch it out for something else, like Maim Support as you're not applying it elsewhere on your gem set-ups. Corrupting Fever is good, but it's just support damage really. You could ramp it up to 325k~ in a 4-link with Empower Support and some gloves with the Essence of Delirium DoT modifier. |
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Im in trouble to damage red map bosses in this build, to slow to kill single target bosses... Just death 6 times to Baran 3...
Someone can help me with some tips? Last edited by pangarebr#6389 on Aug 10, 2021, 8:37:47 AM
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" Sure, no problem. I've made some changes to your tree which you can view at this Path of Building code: https://pastebin.com/w5QstPDz. There's two trees; the first is "New Tree" which has the changes I've suggested, and "Current Tree" which is what you're currently using. Basically, you need more life, like a lot more life. You should be at around 5.1k to 5.5k at your level with reasonable gear but you're at 4.1k. Here's some other suggestions: 1) Replace the rings with rare ones and a mix of life/resists/attributes (get another 30 Dexterity somewhere so you can remove the +30 Dexterity node I've had to put in your new tree) 2) Get a better amulet. Aim for something with life/reists/attributes. Once you get a better one, then anoint Cleaving which adds a huge amount of damage (for you, it's around a 15% to 17% overall damage boost). 3) Remove the +x-y Physical Damage on gloves for a hybrid life craft. The extra physical damage doesn't affect bleed and is a tiny boost to Spectral Shield Throw's impact damage. EDIT: physical damage to attacks will increase bleed dps, but not by much. A max crafted roll of 5 to 8 on gloves will add around 0.3% overall DPS. 4) The gloves themselves are okay stat-wise, but the base is useless (both in terms of the implicit and the evasion base). Look for similar stat or better stat gloves. 5) There's a jewel node you haven't taken at the bottom near Dirty Techniques. You should pick this up soon and add a jewel, as it's 10 extra Dexterity which is hard to come by, and also another jewel adds more life and damage. 6) The jewels you get and use should have life on them. You should look for new ones, or try to alt/aug a couple yourself. As for playing, stay at range if you're having issues playing at mid-range (I'm guessing you're close to mid-range as you're using Pride instead of Malevolence). Try not to stay still for too long, especially on bosses. Baran for instance can one-shot you quite easily. Last edited by Zarasi#7652 on Aug 12, 2021, 4:18:00 AM
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