[3.13] CHAOSMANCER (100% CHAOS Spiders and Zombies) Build. <2 min UBER ELDER. INSANE Clear Speed!

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FoXxX1991 wrote:

wich spectres we should take?
cant find that in the guide

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Forkerino wrote:

I don't understand why are 4W triad grips used outside of phys reflect maps, just removing the gloves in POB increases the DPS by 25%, and replacing them with grip of the council goes even further

A nice method I found for summoning spiders is a divine ire + cast when channeling + desecrate weapon swap with a second dagger, you just channel divine ire for 2-3 desecrate casts and press the flask

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Angry_Roleplayer wrote:

chaos conversion does not work in pob for minions, that's why

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Forkerino wrote:

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Angry_Roleplayer wrote:

chaos conversion does not work in pob for minions, that's why

Are you sure? It looks like it works in the LocalIdentity fork of POB

On a 1 lvl scion, just the dagger and 4W triads:


and without the triads:

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Angry_Roleplayer wrote:

You are right, was not there in normal pob.
I have a feeling something is incorrect here, might be a bug. Cause all monsters including shaper have less chaos res than elemental res. Whenever you just equip triads it must be MORE damage, not less.

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Forkerino wrote:

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Angry_Roleplayer wrote:

You are right, was not there in normal pob.
I have a feeling something is incorrect here, might be a bug. Cause all monsters including shaper have less chaos res than elemental res. Whenever you just equip triads it must be MORE damage, not less.

Elemental resistance is irrelevant in this comparison, as what the triads do is convert physical to chaos, so there is no elemental damage to speak of in the triad or no triad scenarios (some added when using grip of the council, but thats just frosting on top). What should be compared is armor? and chaos resistance