[3.13] HC/SC/SSF All Content Miner - Any Mine Skill - LL/CI - 12k ES w/ Videos!

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KatKira wrote:
Rofl. Throw mines. Detonate mines. So hard to play. Also, normal items? What does that mean, 100 ex gear?


If you're saying that damage is bad , yes it's hard for you.

Your gear is bad , your gems are 0 qual, and underleved etc.

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So this build working on a CI budget is pure bullshit then, if my gear is bad. Got it.

You are both hilarious tbh. If this build requires hundreds of ex of gear to go above yellow maps, then it's not a good or "Haha this build is too strong" as a con. Any build can do anything if you dump enough currency.

Hey Beer, I see you've made a transition to GC build at kinda engame level. Could you draw a few words how's bossing going with your current setup? I suppose a speed clear with GC is much better than BL :). I think any video/stream with your current GC build would be awesome. Cheers.
Last edited by ChunkyJankie on Oct 16, 2020, 5:50:55 AM
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KatKira wrote:
So this build working on a CI budget is pure bullshit then, if my gear is bad. Got it.

You are both hilarious tbh. If this build requires hundreds of ex of gear to go above yellow maps, then it's not a good or "Haha this build is too strong" as a con. Any build can do anything if you dump enough currency.




Any message from me where i said that it's working as CI budget build?
It doesn't require 100 ex to work very good :)
I went to red maps with 3 ex gear budget and blasted everything.
I see no point to talk with people like you.
Have a nice day mate.

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Last edited by Hey0cean on Oct 16, 2020, 5:55:24 AM
Yeah, whatever. I wasted my time and currency on this thing. Lesson learned for next time.
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KatKira wrote:
Yeah, whatever. I wasted my time and currency on this thing. Lesson learned for next time.


My leveling with this build as a starter totally contradicts your meaningless opinion. When you are planning to go CI/LL build you should consider some threshold before transition from Life like ES, res, DPS etc. Its not just yolo life build like many other "cyclist" builds. I was dying too on early mapping, now with 9k ES I don't remember when I died for about 1 week of playing (I'm on sick leave :) ). The prices for ES item are pretty low (I have a comparison from pre Vaal pact nerf, when 15k ES could be regenerated in 0,1sec via leech and then prices were REALLY sick, like 30-50ex for Skyforths :) )
Last edited by ChunkyJankie on Oct 16, 2020, 6:22:04 AM
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Melador wrote:
7500ES and Machina Mitts and I still regularly get blasted and killed from full health by packs of ranged mobs. Just trying to get to level 92 is turning into a chore.

This build is pretty fun, but it definitely feels more fragile than most of the others that I've played.


7500 ES is super low.
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KatKira wrote:
Rofl. Throw mines. Detonate mines. So hard to play. Also, normal items? What does that mean, 100 ex gear?


It certainly doesn’t mean anything close to 100 ex in gear.

100% if you are having problems with dps it’s a playstyle issue. You will absolutely demolish content on a budget. As I said, check the vods if you want, CI version works fine for everything barring 100% delirious maps.

There is a vod somewhere of me doing A8 on a 5 link wouldn’t issues as well.
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ChunkyJankie wrote:
Hey Beer, I see you've made a transition to GC build at kinda engame level. Could you draw a few words how's bossing going with your current setup? I suppose a speed clear with GC is much better than BL :). I think any video/stream with your current GC build would be awesome. Cheers.


I’ll have some videos next week. TBH - it’s okay. Clear is safer, but actually worse than BL due to the nature of the skill and the damage delay.

For bosses, it depends on their mobility. If they move around a lot, BL is much better, but if they are stationary, the GC can wreck them.

I’m not a huge fan of paying super close attention to where I throw the mines, but GC makes you do that to get optional damage.

GC is superior for heists though, works really well in the tight corridors.

It did feel partially bad against sirus though. Still no issues with the fight, but same gear and I can delete sirus before he casts 3-4 spells, on GC it took two rotations of his spells.
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ChunkyJankie wrote:
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KatKira wrote:
Yeah, whatever. I wasted my time and currency on this thing. Lesson learned for next time.


My leveling with this build as a starter totally contradicts your meaningless opinion. When you are planning to go CI/LL build you should consider some threshold before transition from Life like ES, res, DPS etc. Its not just yolo life build like many other "cyclist" builds. I was dying too on early mapping, now with 9k ES I don't remember when I died for about 1 week of playing (I'm on sick leave :) ). The prices for ES item are pretty low (I have a comparison from pre Vaal pact nerf, when 15k ES could be regenerated in 0,1sec via leech and then prices were REALLY sick, like 30-50ex for Skyforths :) )


Your opinion is also worthless to me.
I got the 5l shavs, I got the amulet, the shield, the cluster jewels, my gems are lvl 20 (except bl which is 19, but in PoB the dmg difference is almost negligible anyway), I got the gloves, the tree is exactly the same. This all should be more than enough to transition. Am I expecting to instaphase Sirus and one-shot bosses? No. Am I expecting to rofl stomp 100% delirium t16s? Fuck no. I do expect to easily do non-rippy t14+ maps.

The clear is bad, the single target is mediocre and survivability with gloves is... okish. I know you and the op think below 9-10 k es to be super low (that is a fucking lmao moment on its own), but I have been easily surviving with 4-5k hp on other builds, and also negative chaos res (in this build I have 35% with atziri flask up.

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