[3.13] HC/SC/SSF All Content Miner - Any Mine Skill - LL/CI - 12k ES w/ Videos!

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LaplaceNoMa wrote:
I just realized that starting with some version, the guide dropped any mention of -res on helm. Is there any reason for that? AFAIK, it still works wonders and doesn't conflict with anything (even though it's a rather costly upgrade if we're looking for a 300+ ES hubris with that mod).


The bonus is pretty minimal when considering how much is costs to roll, but it’s a fine upgrade.
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ChunkyJankie wrote:
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BeerLeague wrote:

That isnt how it works. We dont inflict all three, it only allows us to inflict the shitty one with lightning damage.

Also, it will brick your ability to ignite, or force you to use some garbage like infernal legion on skitter bots.

Its good for GC I suppose (although I would much rather freeze), but thats it. Its super trash tier for BL.


Thank you very much for explanation, I thought that status effects can stack on themselves, but according to you only one status effect can be inflicted on enemy


So, no, they stack, but we are only doing lighting damage which means we will only be inflicting one of them, and it’s the crappy one.

Secrets of suffering doesn’t make lighting damage do all three.
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BeerLeague wrote:
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ChunkyJankie wrote:
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BeerLeague wrote:

That isnt how it works. We dont inflict all three, it only allows us to inflict the shitty one with lightning damage.

Also, it will brick your ability to ignite, or force you to use some garbage like infernal legion on skitter bots.

Its good for GC I suppose (although I would much rather freeze), but thats it. Its super trash tier for BL.


Thank you very much for explanation, I thought that status effects can stack on themselves, but according to you only one status effect can be inflicted on enemy


So, no, they stack, but we are only doing lighting damage which means we will only be inflicting one of them, and it’s the crappy one.

Secrets of suffering doesn’t make lighting damage do all three.


Yeah, but what if I have also source for dealing spell cold and fire damage from rings/weapon? That's the same thing when you recommend to find fire and cold damage for full explosives expert potental, maybe I'm stupid and I don't understand that only 1 effect from Explosives Expert will work related to main elemental damage :// .
Last edited by ChunkyJankie on Oct 1, 2020, 11:50:59 AM
Very fun build, first time playing it!
Killed sirus a5 fairly easily, only died once or twice.( went in blindly, never done it before).





I am also missing watcher's eye so that is next on the buy list, after that most likely one-handed weapon or boots upgrade. :)
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ChunkyJankie wrote:


Yeah, but what if I have also source for dealing spell cold and fire damage from rings/weapon? That's the same thing when you recommend to find fire and cold damage for full explosives expert potental, maybe I'm stupid and I don't understand that only 1 effect from Explosives Expert will work related to main elemental damage :// .


No, you are misunderstanding how secrets of suffering works. The aliment amount is based on the damage of the hit.

If you hit and crit w/ 1 fire damage and 1 cold damage it does practically nothing, or actually nothing in most cases. You need to be able to do the damage threshold to proc the ailment.

Its different for explosives expert as it just reads 'while burning'.
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Ramsasan wrote:
Very fun build, first time playing it!
Killed sirus a5 fairly easily, only died once or twice.( went in blindly, never done it before).





I am also missing watcher's eye so that is next on the buy list, after that most likely one-handed weapon or boots upgrade. :)


Nice gear, yeah go for the boots.
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BeerLeague wrote:
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ChunkyJankie wrote:


Yeah, but what if I have also source for dealing spell cold and fire damage from rings/weapon? That's the same thing when you recommend to find fire and cold damage for full explosives expert potental, maybe I'm stupid and I don't understand that only 1 effect from Explosives Expert will work related to main elemental damage :// .


No, you are misunderstanding how secrets of suffering works. The aliment amount is based on the damage of the hit.

If you hit and crit w/ 1 fire damage and 1 cold damage it does practically nothing, or actually nothing in most cases. You need to be able to do the damage threshold to proc the ailment.

Its different for explosives expert as it just reads 'while burning'.



Ohh, okay didn't know that flat ele dmg from items wouldn't be sufficient for inflicting decent brittle/scorch. Thanks for detailed explanation! :D
Last edited by ChunkyJankie on Oct 1, 2020, 12:37:58 PM
Thanks for the nice build!
Gets better with every upgrade so far. :)







Any suggestions what item to upgrade next?
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kuchen85 wrote:
Thanks for the nice build!
Gets better with every upgrade so far. :)







Any suggestions what item to upgrade next?


Machina mitts for sure.
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BeerLeague wrote:
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kuchen85 wrote:
Thanks for the nice build!
Gets better with every upgrade so far. :)







Any suggestions what item to upgrade next?


Machina mitts for sure.


Thanks for the fast reply!

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