3.14 KING OF ALL SUMMONERS. Zombies & Skeletons & Spectres on STEROIDS! | League-Start to End-Game
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Swiftlard wrote:
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AndyLovesHisBge wrote:
If using Impale in Zombie setup, run
Pride, Dread Banner and Vulnerability
If not using Impale, run
Pride, War Banner and Vulnerability
This is not always true though. By switching to Dread Banner from War Banner I got +130k dps and by adding Baron Helmet with Dread Banner enchant I got another 70k dps : total 200k dps increase. I'm using awakened generosity with 21/20 dread banner. My dps is still better without impale 21/20 in my setup.
Currently using raise zombie, empower, feeding frenzy/deathmark(swap for bosses), awakened melee physical, awakened minion damage and multistrike. Empower is lvl 8 in my setup.
Best is to always check with PoB and see what makes the best changes for you.
I agree, always best to check. My setup lowers my dps for war banner in place of Dread Banner.
It is also worth noting that many who use POB don't realize impale is not calculated in the dps and they have to get a special version for the impale damage.
Hello there my dear summoner friends. I just have a big headache going on about my PoB....
I have almost saved up enough cash for the big headenchant with zombie damage on baron. But when i actually go in to check PoB to see how amazing i will be i notice the following.
The baron with zombie 40 % dmg enchant = 8.1 k more dps on shaper/guardians.
The baron with Zombie attack speed enchant = 8.7 k more dps on shaper/guardians.
The baron with "Spirit offering gives 12 % phys dmg as extra chaos dmg" - 7.1 k more dps.
The difference in dps on these are not as big as expected. (also a big lackluster i was hoping for like 40 k more dps on each zombie with head enchant seeing the price, actually didnt check PoB with enchant beforehand lol.)
So, is it really worth dropping down 55-60 EX for the zombie dmg enchant? is PoB missing something with it?
The head enchant for spirit offering is for like 12 EX, and chaos damage is quite tempting.... i could easily get some other upgrades for those 48 ex i have to spare....
Ok, I had alot of fun with the CI spec but I didnt really need, need it.
I sold off and/or listed all my overly fancy junk and am rocking two 50c rings, and a belt I crafted for less then 1ex atm.
I still instantly kill or phase every endgame boss and im back in hybrid/tank spec with a strength of 1,565.
I even dropped a dps aura and switched my cyclone to a 5 link to add infused channeling for a free -8% physical dmg reduction.
I dont need to but I do what others are atm, for guardians and sirus I just swap my feeding frenzy to my carrion/holy relic link and move minion damage to zombies.
Links look like this now;
Last edited by JCOH35#4078 on Jan 31, 2020, 1:55:37 PM
Hello there my dear summoner friends. I just have a big headache going on about my PoB....
I have almost saved up enough cash for the big headenchant with zombie damage on baron. But when i actually go in to check PoB to see how amazing i will be i notice the following.
The baron with zombie 40 % dmg enchant = 8.1 k more dps on shaper/guardians.
The baron with Zombie attack speed enchant = 8.7 k more dps on shaper/guardians.
The baron with "Spirit offering gives 12 % phys dmg as extra chaos dmg" - 7.1 k more dps.
The difference in dps on these are not as big as expected. (also a big lackluster i was hoping for like 40 k more dps on each zombie with head enchant seeing the price, actually didnt check PoB with enchant beforehand lol.)
So, is it really worth dropping down 55-60 EX for the zombie dmg enchant? is PoB missing something with it?
The head enchant for spirit offering is for like 12 EX, and chaos damage is quite tempting.... i could easily get some other upgrades for those 48 ex i have to spare....
I can link you guardian videos with and without it and its barely noticable, I cant speak to PoB #s b/c im an old guy in rl that still uses a flip phone but I have the crazy, CRAZY helm and its honestly not a big difference, it just looks really pretty.
If I was still going to go crazy on 1 piece for this build id go amulet, t1 STR, T1 inc STR, ES etc.
(youll see in my above post I have a hand made baron, made awakener orb slamming 2 closed helmets together, then fossil crafted for 30% quality and sells more to vendor, and then chance orb'd into a baron, with the enchant)
Last edited by JCOH35#4078 on Jan 31, 2020, 2:00:18 PM
Hello there my dear summoner friends. I just have a big headache going on about my PoB....
I have almost saved up enough cash for the big headenchant with zombie damage on baron. But when i actually go in to check PoB to see how amazing i will be i notice the following.
The baron with zombie 40 % dmg enchant = 8.1 k more dps on shaper/guardians.
The baron with Zombie attack speed enchant = 8.7 k more dps on shaper/guardians.
The baron with "Spirit offering gives 12 % phys dmg as extra chaos dmg" - 7.1 k more dps.
The difference in dps on these are not as big as expected. (also a big lackluster i was hoping for like 40 k more dps on each zombie with head enchant seeing the price, actually didnt check PoB with enchant beforehand lol.)
So, is it really worth dropping down 55-60 EX for the zombie dmg enchant? is PoB missing something with it?
The head enchant for spirit offering is for like 12 EX, and chaos damage is quite tempting.... i could easily get some other upgrades for those 48 ex i have to spare....
I compared Zombie +40% dmg enchant and 40% Dread Banner enchant and Dread Banner was slightly better and this is without running impale gem. Dread Banner is linked with awakened generosity.
Ok, I had alot of fun with the CI spec but I didnt really need, need it.
I sold off and/or listed all my overly fancy junk and am rocking two 50c rings, and a belt I crafted for less then 1ex atm.
I still instantly kill or phase every endgame boss and im back in hybrid/tank spec with a strength of 1,565.
I even dropped a dps aura and switched my cyclone to a 5 link to add infused channeling for a free -8% physical dmg reduction.
I dont need to but I do what others are atm, for guardians and sirus I just swap my feeding frenzy to my carrion/holy relic link and move minion damage to zombies.
Links look like this now;
Good choice! this is all that our build needs anyways. The dmg is more then enough, we survive pretty much all content. Holy relic with some dmg feels good right? being able to actually kill something ourselve while cycloning and our zombies can focus on the further away mobs this way, it feels faster!
Last edited by Cyrom#2298 on Jan 31, 2020, 2:12:03 PM
How necessary is it to have desecrate? Is it only useful while raising spectres? If so, my spectres rarely die and I find it annoying to keep slowing down to cyclone if I'm only using it too get sprit offering.
Basically what I'm asking is would it be bad to remove cyclone, cast while channeling, and desecrate to free up some sockets? Obviously I would keep spirit offering up by casting it manually.
Last edited by tanbunz#4835 on Jan 31, 2020, 2:19:15 PM
Thoughts on Precision gem with minions?
I have just enough mana to run Precision aura in my gloves.
Is it worth it?
Does the critical strike chance (or accuracy) do any good for my zombie ladies?
Ok, I had alot of fun with the CI spec but I didnt really need, need it.
Good choice! this is all that our build needs anyways. The dmg is more then enough, we survive pretty much all content. Holy relic with some dmg feels good right? being able to actually kill something ourselve while cycloning and our zombies can focus on the further away mobs this way, it feels faster!
Ya, im back in my old hybrid spec with a slightly different tree and without my fancy watchers eye, and a total of 1.5ex in accessories I am sitting at 18k EHP so its really not un-obtainable.
I know before people always said it was b/c of the 50ex eye, or gg rings etc but its not, im just under 1,600 STR, with the old astramentis neck, two crappy rings while I look for better ones, and a belt I chaos spammed for less then like 90 chaos, then the 80c I paid for the base.
18k EHP, super doable. I would recommend using something similar to my tree though to compensate for your STR, its nothing wildly different, it just uses a 3rd efficient training is all.
It lets you get that 16th zombie and still NOT use alberons or rare boots and not require an god tier amulet.
(last 3 points in my tree will be impale chance, impale effect, and forecful skewering, theyre at the bottom near utmost might)
Last edited by JCOH35#4078 on Jan 31, 2020, 2:32:08 PM
Ya, im back in my old hybrid spec with a slightly different tree and without my fancy watchers eye, and a total of 1.5ex in accessories I am sitting at 18k EHP so its really not un-obtainable.
I know before people always said it was b/c of the 50ex eye, or gg rings etc but its not, im just under 1,600 STR, with the old astramentis neck, two crappy rings while I look for better ones, and a belt I chaos spammed for less then like 90 chaos, then the 80c I paid for the base.
18k EHP, super doable. I would recommend using something similar to my tree though to compensate for your STR, its nothing wildly different, it just uses a 3rd efficient training is all.
It lets you get that 16th zombie and still NOT use alberons or rare boots and not require an god tier amulet.
(last 3 points in my tree will be impale chance, impale effect, and forecful skewering, theyre at the bottom near utmost might)
Trying to get the Enduring Bond cluster would get you much much more dps.
Last edited by Swiftlard#7465 on Jan 31, 2020, 2:38:07 PM
